Name and date translation. Hard to see. suriage blade

[Nicholas]

Can someone please help me translate. I believe it starts bishu osafune but that’s all I got. Thank you.

[Nicholas]

[Nicholas]

[uwe]

If pushed I would go for “永禄十年八..” (August 1567)

Hope I’ve found all strokes this time…

[Bugyotsuji]

You could... consider 茂実 Shigezane/Morizane?

 

[Shugyosha]

Hi Nick,

I've looked long and hard at it and I keep coming back to the obvious one: Sukesada 祐定

I think that the "mouth" part of the right hand radical for Suke isn't clearly done and that the placement of the strokes in the left hand radical makes it look a bit like the halberd 戈 which sent me in the wrong direction. I can't find any kanji with this radical and the left hand one礻which is clearly part of the Suke kanji. Anyhow, that's my logic.

 

[uwe]

丈 For the right side radical makes no sense….Thinking the other way round I could follow John’s reading!

Hope somebody can confirm or comes up with a better idea 🤓

[Nobody]

When I saw the mei, I thought it was Sukesada (祐定) without doubt. 

[Nicholas]

8 hours ago, uwe said:

If pushed I would go for “永禄十年八..” (August 1567)

Hope I’ve found all strokes this time…

That’s what I was thinking. It’s hard to see but I believe 禄 is the second character. Thanks for your help.

[Nicholas]

7 hours ago, Shugyosha said:

Hi Nick,

I've looked long and hard at it and I keep coming back to the obvious one: Sukesada 祐定

I think that the "mouth" part of the right hand radical for Suke isn't clearly done and that the placement of the strokes in the left hand radical makes it look a bit like the halberd 戈 which sent me in the wrong direction. I can't find any kanji with this radical and the left hand one礻which is clearly part of the Suke kanji. Anyhow, that's my logic.

 

I agree. Suke was my guess because it was the closest I could find. But I’m far from good at translating kanji, let alone kanji with 500 years of rust build up. Thank you for your help.

[Peter Bleed]

If the rest of this sword  at all fits with what were were shown, this should be an obvious Bizen product. Ho-hum.... It might be rather good "of type", but I bet it is  just a late koto Bizento....

P