CarsonSharps Posted December 18, 2021 Report Posted December 18, 2021 Is this for real?? I have heard of this practice before but those sketches look sketchy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255133136583?hash=item3b671eb6c7:g:dBgAAOSwLqRgqKW4 Quote
ChrisW Posted December 18, 2021 Report Posted December 18, 2021 Yes, it is for real. The sword looks to be as advertised. The diagram is a modern re-creation of an older one famously known; it details the various kinds of cuts that could be done. Often times, the sword will have what kind of cut was used inscribed on the nakago. 3 Quote
CarsonSharps Posted December 18, 2021 Author Report Posted December 18, 2021 Wow super interesting. Thanks Chris. I remember seeing a very interesting video with a Russian WW2 Militaria collector doing an interview with Bill Rannow about this subject. Found it: 2 Quote
ChrisW Posted December 18, 2021 Report Posted December 18, 2021 I've seen this video before; its an enjoyable one. However, a cutting test doesn't necessarily make a sword on the level of what you see here. It depends on a lot of factors: age, condition, smith/school, length, etc. This is true for all swords; think of a cutting test as an 'optional upgrade' like you would on a nice car. Of course, this 'upgrade' is one that is typically never done anymore and certainly not on bodies! 1 3 Quote
CarsonSharps Posted December 18, 2021 Author Report Posted December 18, 2021 Great points Chris ! Quote
Shugyosha Posted December 18, 2021 Report Posted December 18, 2021 Be skeptical about cutting tests. They can make a poor to average sword way more appealing than they would otherwise be. Unless the test is carried out by someone who is a member of one of the families authorised to carry out such a test and his name and seal are there, treat with caution. 4 Quote
ChrisW Posted December 18, 2021 Report Posted December 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shugyosha said: Be skeptical about cutting tests. They can make a poor to average sword way more appealing than they would otherwise be. Unless the test is carried out by someone who is a member of one of the families authorised to carry out such a test and his name and seal are there, treat with caution. This is also something you should definitely consider thoroughly if you're thinking of getting a cutting test sword. Much like how sometimes bohi are added to hide/remove flaws! 2 Quote
CarsonSharps Posted December 18, 2021 Author Report Posted December 18, 2021 Fascinating subject. More good tips John! Thats what I love about this forum...you guys are super helpful and informative!! Quote
Shugyosha Posted December 18, 2021 Report Posted December 18, 2021 Worth a read: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/markussesko.com/2014/07/03/tameshigiri-the-history-and-development-of-Japanese-sword-testing/amp/ 3 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted December 19, 2021 Report Posted December 19, 2021 Yes, that book is a treasure for anyone wanting to know more about cutting tests. Quote
CarsonSharps Posted December 19, 2021 Author Report Posted December 19, 2021 Thank you for the book link ! 1 1 Quote
Stephen Posted December 22, 2021 Report Posted December 22, 2021 Those in the know Carson needs some help with looking at a cutting test sword Quote
Toryu2020 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Posted December 22, 2021 I'm sure youre aware (but this is the internet...) The inscription says "Futatsu do ochiru" which means "Cut two bodies" if it said "Ni no do" that would be the location of the cut as seen in the illustration. Since we cannot see the artists signature nor any seal or other mention of the cutter - I would not give this lots of weight in my considerations... -t 3 1 1 Quote
Ed Posted December 23, 2021 Report Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Stephen said: On your sale page Ed? Stephen, No, that shodai Kaneshige was sold a few years ago. Photos are for reference/education. Ed 1 Quote
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