fatruff3 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Hello, I recently picked this up from a gunshow for $150. I don't know a lot about WWII Japanese swords but I was fairly certain this one was real and it would be nice for my collection. I am wondering if you can tell more about it. I can not seem to figure out how to read the tang correctly. If you need more pictures let me know. There is no hilt or handle just the sword/tang and the scabbard. Thank you for your help! Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 金道 (Kinmichi) - Feb 1944 Type 98 Japanese officer sword (gunto). I don't see anything on him in the Nihontoindex, but he's listed on the Japaneseswordindex.com. A Seki area smith. Can I get a clear photo of that small mark above the date (the side with the most kanji characters)? It's likely the small Seki Stamp of the Nagoya Army Arsenal Inspectors. Also, there is a mark near the end of the nakago (tang). If it's a number or kanji, I'd love to see a clear shot of that too! Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Oh, and BTW -- You got a STEAL at that price! It will cost a little to re-fit the gunto if you want to finish it out, but a Type 98 gunto, intact, is going for over $1,400 USD. I do have a good tsuba (handle), laying about. If you want it, give me a PM and we can work out getting it to you for minimal cost. You'll still need to find the tsuba/seppa set (handguard and spacers). Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Listed as a Seki Kaji Tosho: 金道 (Kinmichi) 日比野 一二 Quote
fatruff3 Posted December 9, 2021 Author Report Posted December 9, 2021 Is this the arsenal mark you are talking about. I am not sure what the other mark is at the end of the tang - I did not see one on there. Also thank you for the information and I would love to get the handle for it. I plan on keeping it for my collection so getting it completed would be nice. Thank you Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 That's perfect Logan, thanks! It's the "Na" stamp of the Nagoya Army Arsenal. For bragging rights, you have 1 of the 2 last blades I have recorded with the Na stamp. The arsenal went to Gifu and small Seki stamps that year and in '45. STAMP SURVEY Stamp 1935 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 No Date Showa 1 1 1 4 20 14 1 1 134 Seki, large 5mm 1** 3 9 45 3 3 112 Na 3 4 43 7 1 Seki, small, 3mm 8 14 7 Gifu Total 2 15 33 2 1944, Jan Kanemune Sergey2010,Guns.ru 1944, Jan Kanenori NGF collection, RS fittings 1944, Jan Katsumasa Petercollector, NMB 1944, Jan Masayuki Kasper, Warrelics 1944, Jan Sukenobu, Star, Na Cox/Toki, F & G 1944, Feb Kinmichi Fatruff3, NMB 1944, Feb Mitsunobu, Star, Na Hastur, NMB Quote
ChrisW Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 Is this Hibini Kinmichi? Because if so, I have a gunto by him as well. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 8:04 AM, ChrisW said: I have a gunto by him as well. Expand He's the only one I know of (although I'm not knowledgeable on smiths in the least). Do I have pics of yours? Quote
ChrisW Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 1:22 PM, Bruce Pennington said: He's the only one I know of (although I'm not knowledgeable on smiths in the least). Do I have pics of yours? Expand No, I don't believe you do, but there's no numbers on it. Just a Seki stamp. Here's the signature (with a blurry Seki stamp): Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 7:38 PM, ChrisW said: Here's the signature (with a blurry Seki stamp) Expand Thanks Chris! I assume no date on the other side? Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 These two Kinmichi support my theory that the undated blades are often made before 1942/3. The large Seki stamps were mostly replaced in 1943 with the Na stamp, and the dating of blades increased from 1942 onward. Quote
mecox Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 Bruce and Chris, this is Kinmichi 金道 real name Hibino Ichiji 日比野 一二 born Taisho 6 (1917) May 6, and appears to have died in 1945. He was from Oyama, Tomida, Kamo-gun, Gifu (5-6 km to east of Seki and registered as a Seki smith Showa 17 (1942) Sept 10. He does not look to have trained in the traditional way in Seki schools and likely transferred from another job (e.g. blacksmith)to swordsmith. 1 Quote
ChrisW Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 9:32 AM, mecox said: Bruce and Chris, this is Kinmichi 金道 real name Hibino Ichiji 日比野 一二 born Taisho 6 (1917) May 6, and appears to have died in 1945. He was from Oyama, Tomida, Kamo-gun, Gifu (5-6 km to east of Seki and registered as a Seki smith Showa 17 (1942) Sept 10. He does not look to have trained in the traditional way in Seki schools and likely transferred from another job (e.g. blacksmith)to swordsmith. Expand Thanks for the additional info! I had no real info on him other than knowing he was a showato smith. Quote
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