Patterns on Fuchi and Kashira

[Nobody]

Hey! Am I the only one who can see a manji there with the center point in nakago ana

It is always interesting to think about motifs.

If you concern with Manji, it might also look like Maru-Manji (丸å).

 

But the design reminds me of a lock rather than a Manji.

[Michal]

Hey! I was joking of course

but this suggestion with lock motif is really interesting.

I used to interpreting this motif as a lattice / railing / or just something like garden pole on a lattice.

 

Ok, here is something much more serious and not offtopic. A pattern from Japanese sketch book. Unfortunately I don't have any better picture, nor possibility to read the letters around it.

 

Regards!

[Michal]

And one more pattern book example:

[Bugyotsuji]

Some pretty amazing patterns there.

 

The Hachisuka Daimyos who moved to Awa (Tokushima?) on the east coast of Shikoku used a Manji symbol. Recently I came into the possession of a Mae-date which was originally made as a small shinchu mirror in about 1290. The Mei is good. It has a bold Manji in the centre of it. At some point one of the Hachisukas must have attached a spring plate to the tang so that it slots nicely into the fixture on the front of the helmet.

 

OK, since I wrote that I've taken some piccies, even though it's neither fuchi nor kashira. Forgive the...

[Aloof Pegasus]

Item nmbr 300200253413 ( sorry unable to link) on ebay includes a habaki with keyfret pattern.

[Brian]

(Don't forget to sign your posts with your name....)

 

Linking is simply a matter of pasting the eBay link. The forum will do the rest. No need for any code.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0200253413

 

 

Brian

[sencho]

Hi Michal,

 

Thanks for posting those tsuba... the 1st one with the openwork sayagata design is (in my eyes) just spectacular.....

 

I have never made it down to Krakow, only Warsaw, (which I love) but next time I may have to visit the museum there!

 

Cheers!!

[Mantis dude]

I believe I read or saw on a program once that the Manji symbol was used to ward off evil spirits. just kinda a fyi, cliff claven bit of info. Does anyone know if this is true? Thanks.

[Michal]

Hi Michal,

 

Thanks for posting those tsuba... the 1st one with the openwork sayagata design is (in my eyes) just spectacular.....

 

I have never made it down to Krakow, only Warsaw, (which I love) but next time I may have to visit the museum there!

 

Cheers!!

 

You're welcome, just do let me know

[Michal]

Back to topic just beacuse I found this.

 

 

It is a capture from the youtube movie on Mongolia, where, amongst the traditional musicians, we can find a lady with an instrument decorated with sayagata pattern.

 

I made short searching through google: this musical instrument is called yoochin. Its front pannel decoration may be varied, but googling I found another one:

 

 

Just small for those who are, or will track this pattern around the world.

 

Regards

[Bungo]

the thread that keeps on truckin'

 

right column, 4th pic down

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/3120-JP-Samurai-Swo ... dZViewItem

 

milt

 

*Edit Brian*: Uploaded the pic. As these ebay auctions age, the pics disappear and the posts become meaningless. Uploading the pic means the thread stays relevant

[Bungo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-sword-WAKIZ ... dZViewItem

 

more...................

 

milt

[Bungo]

Like General Custer at Little Big Horn......they keep coming and coming

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/659-Japanese-sword- ... dZViewItem

 

 

milt

[Brian]

Well..I guess it's past being educational now, but might be useful if someone decides to write a book on the pattern oneday, and needs examples :lol:

 

Brian

[Nobody]

This Koto (ç´) with Sayagata is now on sale at Aoi-art, though it does not seem to be seen on English pages.

http://www.aoi-art.com/antique/etc/F08304j.html

http://www.aoi-art.com/antique/etc/image/F08304-2.jpg

[Bungo]

beautiful !!

I also notice to the right of the koto are mons that's identical to my tachi !!

Too bad the stock market just entered the bear phase...............

 

http://www.esnips.com/doc/04a81780-67dd ... 3a3/tachi6

 

 

milt

[IanB]

Brian, There is such a book. It dated from around 1910, there was an inserted slip describing a recent fire at Nikko Toshogu. It dealt with key-fret patterns and how they could vary in complexity. There were also sections on typical Japanese lacquer designs and textiles. I gave my copy to the library at Nikko Toshogu Shrine since so many of the examples were copied from there. I cannot for the life of me remember the title or author.

 

Ian Bottomley

[Bungo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/TSUBA-HEIANJO-for-s ... dZViewItem

 

milt

[Bungo]

more.........

 

milt

[kokyo jin]

 

 

 

 

[John A Stuart]

Yo kok, Don't forget your name!! Nice pieces and quite a feat of resurrection. It is good to see some threads resurface and maybe elicit new information. John

[Brian]

Think I'll rename this thread "The Zombie thread that wouldn't die"

 

Brian

[dirk marshall]

another set fuchi

[dirk marshall]

kashira

[dirk marshall]

tsuba

[kokyo jin]

[kokyo jin]

[kusunokimasahige]

Very nice inlay work !!

 

So they used gold, copper, and silver ? or also bronze?

 

KM

[Muki]

The clothes of the man in the front and the table have alternating gold and silver lines inlaid. Very very small lines. I have no idea what they are doing at the table under the tree though.

 

 

jim

 

edit: I forgot to link the picture...

[Stephen]

talk about rasing the dead, what ever happend to Milt? seen him on FB off and on then i closed it out, he still in the Army?