Nobody Posted February 18, 2008 Report Posted February 18, 2008 Hey! Am I the only one who can see a manji there with the center point in nakago ana It is always interesting to think about motifs. If you concern with Manji, it might also look like Maru-Manji (丸å). But the design reminds me of a lock rather than a Manji. Quote
Michal Posted February 18, 2008 Report Posted February 18, 2008 Hey! I was joking of course but this suggestion with lock motif is really interesting. I used to interpreting this motif as a lattice / railing / or just something like garden pole on a lattice. Ok, here is something much more serious and not offtopic. A pattern from Japanese sketch book. Unfortunately I don't have any better picture, nor possibility to read the letters around it. Regards! Quote
Michal Posted February 18, 2008 Report Posted February 18, 2008 And one more pattern book example: Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 19, 2008 Report Posted February 19, 2008 Some pretty amazing patterns there. The Hachisuka Daimyos who moved to Awa (Tokushima?) on the east coast of Shikoku used a Manji symbol. Recently I came into the possession of a Mae-date which was originally made as a small shinchu mirror in about 1290. The Mei is good. It has a bold Manji in the centre of it. At some point one of the Hachisukas must have attached a spring plate to the tang so that it slots nicely into the fixture on the front of the helmet. OK, since I wrote that I've taken some piccies, even though it's neither fuchi nor kashira. Forgive the... Quote
Aloof Pegasus Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 Item nmbr 300200253413 ( sorry unable to link) on ebay includes a habaki with keyfret pattern. Quote
Brian Posted February 22, 2008 Report Posted February 22, 2008 (Don't forget to sign your posts with your name....) Linking is simply a matter of pasting the eBay link. The forum will do the rest. No need for any code. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0200253413 Brian Quote
sencho Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Michal, Thanks for posting those tsuba... the 1st one with the openwork sayagata design is (in my eyes) just spectacular..... I have never made it down to Krakow, only Warsaw, (which I love) but next time I may have to visit the museum there! Cheers!! Quote
Mantis dude Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 I believe I read or saw on a program once that the Manji symbol was used to ward off evil spirits. just kinda a fyi, cliff claven bit of info. Does anyone know if this is true? Thanks. Quote
Michal Posted February 27, 2008 Report Posted February 27, 2008 Hi Michal, Thanks for posting those tsuba... the 1st one with the openwork sayagata design is (in my eyes) just spectacular..... I have never made it down to Krakow, only Warsaw, (which I love) but next time I may have to visit the museum there! Cheers!! You're welcome, just do let me know Quote
Michal Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 Back to topic just beacuse I found this. It is a capture from the youtube movie on Mongolia, where, amongst the traditional musicians, we can find a lady with an instrument decorated with sayagata pattern. I made short searching through google: this musical instrument is called yoochin. Its front pannel decoration may be varied, but googling I found another one: Just small for those who are, or will track this pattern around the world. Regards Quote
Bungo Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 the thread that keeps on truckin' right column, 4th pic down http://cgi.ebay.com/3120-JP-Samurai-Swo ... dZViewItem milt *Edit Brian*: Uploaded the pic. As these ebay auctions age, the pics disappear and the posts become meaningless. Uploading the pic means the thread stays relevant Quote
Bungo Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-sword-WAKIZ ... dZViewItem more................... milt Quote
Bungo Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 Like General Custer at Little Big Horn......they keep coming and coming http://cgi.ebay.com/659-Japanese-sword- ... dZViewItem milt Quote
Brian Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 Well..I guess it's past being educational now, but might be useful if someone decides to write a book on the pattern oneday, and needs examples :lol: Brian Quote
Nobody Posted June 28, 2008 Report Posted June 28, 2008 This Koto (ç´) with Sayagata is now on sale at Aoi-art, though it does not seem to be seen on English pages. http://www.aoi-art.com/antique/etc/F08304j.html http://www.aoi-art.com/antique/etc/image/F08304-2.jpg Quote
Bungo Posted June 28, 2008 Report Posted June 28, 2008 beautiful !! I also notice to the right of the koto are mons that's identical to my tachi !! Too bad the stock market just entered the bear phase............... http://www.esnips.com/doc/04a81780-67dd ... 3a3/tachi6 milt Quote
IanB Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 Brian, There is such a book. It dated from around 1910, there was an inserted slip describing a recent fire at Nikko Toshogu. It dealt with key-fret patterns and how they could vary in complexity. There were also sections on typical Japanese lacquer designs and textiles. I gave my copy to the library at Nikko Toshogu Shrine since so many of the examples were copied from there. I cannot for the life of me remember the title or author. Ian Bottomley Quote
Bungo Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 http://cgi.ebay.com/TSUBA-HEIANJO-for-s ... dZViewItem milt Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Yo kok, Don't forget your name!! Nice pieces and quite a feat of resurrection. It is good to see some threads resurface and maybe elicit new information. John Quote
Brian Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Think I'll rename this thread "The Zombie thread that wouldn't die" Brian Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Very nice inlay work !! So they used gold, copper, and silver ? or also bronze? KM Quote
Muki Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 The clothes of the man in the front and the table have alternating gold and silver lines inlaid. Very very small lines. I have no idea what they are doing at the table under the tree though. jim edit: I forgot to link the picture... Quote
Stephen Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 talk about rasing the dead, what ever happend to Milt? seen him on FB off and on then i closed it out, he still in the Army? Quote
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