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  On 11/17/2021 at 6:15 AM, Brian said:

The "Gendaito" thing is one of the most abused words on eBay. Every second seller claims Gendaito, knowing that it isn't officially defined and hard to prove. You would need to have something fully polished to even argue the point. Seen plenty of arsenal marked swords and the seller says Gendaito. How are you supposed to prove him legally wrong?
I'd say never rely on that word.

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Is it possible that sellers are simply using the information that is available to them in terms of manufacture date.  

 

For instance Wiki (extract shown below) appears to show any modern blade made from 1876 to present is... ... you guessed it...Gendaito!

Classification by period[edit]

Each Japanese sword is classified according to when the blade was made.:[10]

  • Jōkotō (上古刀 "ancient swords", until around 900 A.D.)
  • Kotō (古刀"old swords" from around 900–1596)
  • Shintō (新刀 "new swords" 1596–1780)
  • Shinshintō (新々刀 "new new swords" 1781–1876)
  • Gendaitō (現代刀 "modern or contemporary swords" 1876– present)

I am sure most have seen these time lines on various websites and I can understand why there is confusion with new collectors when this information is so clear.......not to mention the ever ongoing debate about exactly constitutes a Gendaito blade (but PLEASE don't go there now!:flog:

 

Another time line below showing Gendai era 1877- 1945. Very confusing for many.:dunno:

 

 

See the source image

 

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  On 11/16/2021 at 4:58 PM, ChrisW said:

He's a known showato smith. It isn't known if he made gendaito or not. The W-stamp is not exclusively linked to just Mantetsu blades; there is a small list of smiths who have this W stamp. The prevailing theory that Bruce has produced is that it is a midway inspection mark of some kind. Here is Bruce's thread on the W-stamp:



Incidentally it seems all known blades to his name are marked 1943 and none were shown to be gendaito. .

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He also sword marked 1944.

 

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