Question on Type 44 mounts

[Rei Sinn]

Hey guys, 

I was surfing through the market of flebay and noticed something somewhat odd. There was a type 44 mounted gunto containing a 1942 date on the mei. This makes me wonder if type 44 mounts were made before 1944? Otherwise if the sword is fake overall, it's pretty convincing! Just wanted to get an input from you guys so I can maybe learn something out of this!

[sword_guy]

I am still fairly new but have never heard of type 44 gunto.

 

I have seen Type 94 Guntos which as far as I know started production in 1932 (http://ohmura-study.net/931.html)

As far as I know shin Gunto were produced all throughout and before the war so a sword produced in 1942 is very reasonable.

[Rei Sinn]

  On 11/13/2021 at 3:15 AM, sword_guy said:

I am still fairly new but have never heard of type 44 gunto.

 

I have seen Type 94 Guntos which as far as I know started production in 1932 (http://ohmura-study.net/931.html)

As far as I know shin Gunto were produced all throughout and before the war so a sword produced in 1942 is very reasonable.

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I'm a little new as well 😅 The nomenclature is a little erroneous, Type 44, type 3 mounts. Not entirely sure what the official model of these style mounts were called. 

[sword_guy]

Interesting. I see some references to type 44 online but as far as I know the type naming system comes from the year of the emperor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_98) so type 44 would be 1911 (as per the type 44 rifle) if I understand correctly.

As I said a bit new and I do see the type 3 on ohmura http://ohmura-study.net/952.html

 

I also know that many swords were made not necessarily at the same time or place as they were later put together. Perhaps it was a blade that was part of a Type 98 and then refit into a Type 3 housing?

Do you have more pictures of the blade?

[PNSSHOGUN]

  On 11/13/2021 at 3:15 AM, sword_guy said:

I am still fairly new but have never heard of type 44 gunto.

 

I have seen Type 94 Guntos which as far as I know started production in 1932 (http://ohmura-study.net/931.html)

As far as I know shin Gunto were produced all throughout and before the war so a sword produced in 1942 is very reasonable.

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Hi Robert, the Type 94 was officially established in 1934.

 

The 'Type 44' is an erroneous name for the Type 3 or Type Rinji Seshiki which was established in the early 40's. This thread has all the information you will need:

 

[sword_guy]

  On 11/13/2021 at 3:30 AM, PNSSHOGUN said:

Hi Robert, the Type 94 was officially established in 1934.

 

The 'Type 44' is an erroneous name for the the Type 3 or Type Rinji Seshiki which was established in the early 40's. This thread has all the information you will need:

 

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You are absolutely right thank you for the correction!