Mario Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Hallo Ich bin neu und habe eine Frage. Echt oder Fälschung?????? 1 Quote
robinalexander Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 I am new and have a question.....real or fake? Well my deutsch is better than my Japanese. I reckon it is a very genuine Type 95 early version 2. Nice piece....I would buy it. Rob PS...if you dont write back Mario I will know that my answer will need to be translated for you 1 Quote
robinalexander Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Mario, I have had a better look at the stamps on the fuchi and to me, they may not be correct. The first stamp is Kokura arsenal and what's unusual (or wrong?) about that is I have never seen it come first, in the line of three stamps. Also, it seems to be upside down (???) Interestingly, the fuchi.....(the brass ring that the stamps are on) seems to be the correct way up. Middle stamp could be a Nagoya Army Arsenal Inspection stamp. Last stamp may be Kobe Shoten but I am not very familiar with this stamp. The blade, tsuka (handle) and saya (scabbard) still seems ok to me as are the numbers on the blade and saya throat....but there is something very weird about that fuchi.....therefore better just wait until others on NMB have had a chance tk offer their opinion. Rob PS Welcome. 1 Quote
vajo Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 The sword looks nice and like Rob said the Fuchi looks not realy fitting and the stamps on it are crude. Maybe the fuchi is an replacement - i don't know. But the sword looks nice and authenitc for me. Nice to see the original acid etched hamon. 1 Quote
robinalexander Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Is if possible someone has simply dissasemmbled the tsuka and put the fuchi back on upside down? Rob 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 @Stegel or @Shamsy will know. But I've seen enough human error on gunto that I suspect the stamper-guy was suffering from too much sake the night before! Mario, is the fuchi loose or does it fit tightly? 1 Quote
Mario Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: @Stegel oder @Shamsywirst wissen. Aber ich habe bei gunto genug menschliche Fehler gesehen, dass ich vermute, dass der Stampfer-Typ in der Nacht zuvor zu viel Sake gelitten hat! Mario, ist die Fuchi locker oder sitzt sie fest? Ich habe das Schwert gekauft. Allerdings werde ich noch 4 Wochen warten müssen bis es da ist. Dann kann ich weitere Bilder einstellen. Vor 4 Stunden sagte Mario: Hallo Ich bin neu und habe eine Frage. Echt oder Fälschung?????? Bitte helfen Quote
Mario Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 Vielen Dank an alle die mir helfen herauszufinden ob es ein Original ist. Quote
Kiipu Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, robinalexander said: The first stamp is Kokura arsenal and what's unusual (or wrong?) about that is I have never seen it come first, in the line of three stamps. Sharp eyes you have there! copper-handle NCO sword questions Edited October 9, 2021 by Kiipu 1 2 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 7:49 PM, robinalexander said: Is if possible someone has simply dissasemmbled the tsuka and put the fuchi back on upside down? Rob With way lock set up,it can't be put upside down. 3 2 1 Quote
Mario Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Posted October 10, 2021 Ich habe noch eins im Netz gefunden das falsch gestempelt ist. Soll original sein. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mario said: Ich habe noch eins im Netz gefunden das falsch gestempelt ist. Soll original sein. Mario, Have you heard of online translators? Here's one I like: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=dutch+to+english&atb=v275-1&ia=web I am posting on a Russian sword forum, and I use it a lot. I don't expect the Russians to read my English, I translate first. 1 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Mario said: Ich habe noch eins im Netz gefunden das falsch gestempelt ist. Soll original sein. This one is correctly stamped. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 11, 2021 Report Posted October 11, 2021 The stamps are correct, the order is reversed from the norm. 1 Quote
Stegel Posted October 11, 2021 Report Posted October 11, 2021 The stamps are correct and also in the correct order. Rob nearly got it right, but as BangBang has shown, the fuchi cannot be reassembled upside down. If you look carefully, the whole 'SET' of stamps is upside down. Bruce is right, it looks like human error to me too. A picture is worth a thousand words so i got a chance to play with some software and made this up. 4 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 11, 2021 Report Posted October 11, 2021 You've got some fun software there @Stegel! So the stamping guy had the whole gunto upside down when he did the stamps, like you said in the right order, but when righted, upside down and flipped from normal. 1 Quote
robinalexander Posted October 11, 2021 Report Posted October 11, 2021 So if, as Stegel indicates, its human error (and he is a 95 guru)...just jump on it Mario as the rest if the package is nice/honest....and now it could be more collectable! Rob 1 Quote
Mario Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Posted October 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: Mario, Haben Sie schon von Online-Übersetzern gehört? Hier ist eine, die mir gefällt: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=dutch+to+english&atb=v275-1&ia=web Ich poste in einem russischen Schwertforum und benutze es oft. Ich erwarte nicht, dass die Russen mein Englisch lesen, ich übersetze zuerst. Ok sorry I will always translate it from now on 1 Quote
Mario Posted October 13, 2021 Author Report Posted October 13, 2021 Hello Maybe someone can help me or even sell me looking for a suitable tassel. greeting Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 Mario, I don't see any real ones for sale on ebay right now. This dealer is good and has one for sale for $300 AUS, which is a really good price! I've paid $400 USD for mine in the past. https://guntoartswords.com/010957.html 1 Quote
Smee78 Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 Looks like a nice clean example, congrats on the new addition. As for the tassel, good luck. They seem to be getting harder to find a good example. 1 Quote
Mario Posted October 21, 2021 Author Report Posted October 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mario said: Hello I found a nice tassel. Is it original? Greetings to all Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 21, 2021 Report Posted October 21, 2021 Maybe @Stegel or @PNSSHOGUN can say for sure. To me it looks like a good reproduction. Here’s a picture of one of mine. You’ll see some differences. 1 Quote
Kolekt-To Posted October 22, 2021 Report Posted October 22, 2021 Bruce's tassel: Gut! Mario's potential tassel: Nicht gut. 1 Quote
Mario Posted October 22, 2021 Author Report Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Kolekt-To said: Bruces Quaste: Gut! Marios potenzielle Quaste: Nicht gut. I found this. Look the same 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 22, 2021 Report Posted October 22, 2021 That one looks more correct. Accurately aged and stitching looks right. 1 Quote
vajo Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 Another question why is this thread pinned as FAKE. When you click on the FAKE Pin you see other Threads also pinned a FAKE. I'm a little confused about this. Quote
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