Nco shin gunto type 95

[Mario]

Hallo  

Ich bin neu und habe eine Frage. 

Echt oder Fälschung??????

[robinalexander]

I am new and have a question.....real or fake?

 

 

Well my deutsch is better than my Japanese.

 

I reckon it is a very genuine Type 95 early version 2.

 

Nice piece....I would buy it.

 

Rob

PS...if you dont write back Mario I will know that my answer will need to be translated for you 

[robinalexander]

Mario, 

 

I have had a better look at the stamps on the fuchi and to me, they may not be correct.  

 

The first stamp is Kokura arsenal and what's unusual (or wrong?) about that is I have never seen it come first, in the line of three stamps.  Also,  it seems to be upside down (???) Interestingly, the fuchi.....(the brass ring that the stamps are on) seems to be the correct way up. 

 

Middle stamp could be a Nagoya Army Arsenal Inspection stamp.

 

Last stamp may be Kobe Shoten but I am not very familiar with this stamp.

 

The blade, tsuka (handle) and saya (scabbard) still seems ok to me as are the numbers on the blade and saya throat....but there is something very weird about that fuchi.....therefore better just wait until others on NMB have had a chance tk offer their opinion.

 

Rob

 

PS Welcome.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[vajo]

The sword looks nice and like Rob said the Fuchi looks not realy fitting and the stamps on it are crude. Maybe the fuchi is an replacement - i don't know. But the sword looks nice and authenitc for me. Nice to see the original acid etched hamon.

[robinalexander]

Is if possible someone has simply dissasemmbled the tsuka and put the fuchi back on upside down?

Rob

[Bruce Pennington]

@Stegel or @Shamsy will know.  But I've seen enough human error on gunto that I suspect the stamper-guy was suffering from too much sake the night before! 

 

Mario, is the fuchi loose or does it fit tightly?

[Mario]

2 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

@Stegel oder @Shamsywirst wissen. Aber ich habe bei gunto genug menschliche Fehler gesehen, dass ich vermute, dass der Stampfer-Typ in der Nacht zuvor zu viel Sake gelitten hat! 

 

Mario, ist die Fuchi locker oder sitzt sie fest?

Ich habe das Schwert gekauft. Allerdings werde ich noch 4 Wochen warten müssen bis es da ist. Dann kann ich weitere Bilder einstellen. 

 

Vor 4 Stunden sagte Mario:

Hallo  

Ich bin neu und habe eine Frage. 

Echt oder Fälschung??????

Bitte helfen 

[Mario]

Vielen Dank an alle die mir helfen herauszufinden ob es ein Original ist.

[Kiipu]

5 hours ago, robinalexander said:

The first stamp is Kokura arsenal and what's unusual (or wrong?) about that is I have never seen it come first, in the line of three stamps.

 

Sharp eyes you have there!

copper-handle NCO sword questions

Edited October 9, 2021 by Kiipu

[robinalexander]

Keine Ursache

[BANGBANGSAN]

On 10/9/2021 at 7:49 PM, robinalexander said:

Is if possible someone has simply dissasemmbled the tsuka and put the fuchi back on upside down?

Rob

With way lock set up,it can't be put upside down.

 

[Mario]

Ich habe noch eins im Netz gefunden das falsch gestempelt ist. 

Soll original sein. 

[Bruce Pennington]

1 hour ago, Mario said:

Ich habe noch eins im Netz gefunden das falsch gestempelt ist. 

Soll original sein. 

Mario,

Have you heard of online translators?  Here's one I like: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=dutch+to+english&atb=v275-1&ia=web

 

I am posting on a Russian sword forum, and I use it a lot.  I don't expect the Russians to read my English, I translate first.

[BANGBANGSAN]

3 hours ago, Mario said:

Ich habe noch eins im Netz gefunden das falsch gestempelt ist. 

Soll original sein. 

 

This one is correctly stamped.

[Bruce Pennington]

The stamps are correct, the order is reversed from the norm.

[Stegel]

The stamps are correct and also in the correct order.

Rob nearly got it right, but as BangBang has shown, the fuchi cannot be reassembled upside down.

If you look carefully, the whole 'SET' of stamps is upside down.

Bruce is right, it looks like human error to me too.

 

A picture is worth a thousand words so i got a chance to play with some software and made this up.

[Bruce Pennington]

You've got some fun software there @Stegel!  So the stamping guy had the whole gunto upside down when he did the stamps, like you said in the right order, but when righted, upside down and flipped from normal.

[robinalexander]

So if, as Stegel indicates, its human error (and he is a 95 guru)...just jump on it Mario as the rest if the package is nice/honest....and now it could be more collectable!

Rob

 

 

[Mario]

12 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Mario,

Haben Sie schon von Online-Übersetzern gehört? Hier ist eine, die mir gefällt: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=dutch+to+english&atb=v275-1&ia=web

 

Ich poste in einem russischen Schwertforum und benutze es oft. Ich erwarte nicht, dass die Russen mein Englisch lesen, ich übersetze zuerst.

Ok sorry I will always translate it from now on

[Mario]

 

Hello
Maybe someone can help me or even sell me looking for a suitable tassel.
greeting

[Bruce Pennington]

Mario,

I don't see any real ones for sale on ebay right now.  This dealer is good and has one for sale for $300 AUS, which is a really good price!  I've paid $400 USD for mine in the past.

 

https://guntoartswords.com/010957.html

[Mario]

Thank you 

[Smee78]

Looks like a nice clean example, congrats on the new addition. As for the tassel, good luck. They seem to be getting harder to find a good example.

[Mario]

[Mario]

16 minutes ago, Mario said:

Hello
I found a nice tassel.
Is it original?
Greetings to all

 

[Bruce Pennington]

Maybe @Stegel or @PNSSHOGUN can say for sure.  To me it looks like a good reproduction.  Here’s a picture of one of mine.  You’ll see some differences.

[Kolekt-To]

Bruce's tassel: Gut!

 

Mario's potential tassel: Nicht gut.

 

[Mario]

1 hour ago, Kolekt-To said:

Bruces Quaste: Gut!

 

Marios potenzielle Quaste: Nicht gut.

 

I found this. Look the same

[Bruce Pennington]

That one looks more correct.  Accurately aged and stitching looks right. 

[vajo]

Another question why is this thread pinned as FAKE. When you click on the FAKE Pin you see other Threads also pinned a FAKE. I'm a little confused about this.