Bungo Tomoyuki collection

[Mark Green]

Hi Gang,

Here are some pics of my Tomoyuki Mei. One Katana, two long wakizashi.

Anyone care to take a crack at who's, who.

New pics of the swords in a few weeks.

Cheers, Mark G

[reinhard]

What is it you want and where do you think you are?

 

reinhard

[Mark Green]

Hi Reinhard,

 

Sorry if my quick message last night was that unclear. I forget sometimes that many on the site are using translation programs. Thanks for giving me a clue

 

Mark G

[Brian]

Mark,

I could be wrong, but what I think Reinhard was asking is where do you think you are in this collection of Bungo Tomoyuki swords? In other words...are you specialising in this group..trying to get one of each smith in the line.. trying for a daisho... trying to get a few of one maker etc etc?

There were quite a few Bungo Tomoyuki smiths, and identifying exactly which these are just from the mei won't be easy. Are they papered to be sure? Are you going after more?

I guess with Milt away at undisclosed location...someone has to fill the Bungo gap..although it wouldn't be most collector's choice

 

Brian

[Mark Green]

Hi,

Yes. I collect Bungo swords. The Tomoyuki group is my favorite. These are swords from 3 Shinto smiths. I have not sent them for paper, as I've figured it out for myself (maybe). And these swords will not leave me while I'm alive, so no NEED for paper.

I just got my hands on the Katana. I've been saving the mid one for many years looking to dashio it up. Now I will. Not the same smith, but close enough for now.

Sorry Reinhart, a friend thought you were dissing me, I read it quick and responded. I was in a hurry. forgive me.

Yes Milt has great Bungo knowledge. He has helped me a bunch.

I believe the new Katana my be the same Tomoyuki that made that sword that has floted around a while from Roger Robertshaw's site for sale some time back, with the great cutting test mei. It looks very close, and the sword looks dead on. It was in fullers book as well.

What do you guys think, from the mei?

Cheers, thanks Brian, Mark G

[Brian]

Just uploaded for comparisson

Some differences, but it is close enough to warrant more research imho. You need to go into hamon, yasurime, nakago jiri etc and see how they compare.

 

Brian

[Mark Green]

HO yes all of the above.

Thanks Brian, can you cut the 2 full length pics together for us please.

Oh here is another pic of the actual Nakago.

Can you put those together for me. I promise I will learn how to do that soon.

Mark

 

Edit Brian - Done, and uploaded replacing your pic here.

[reinhard]

Mark, no dissing around here. Nihon-To is no topic for da hood. Quick (and clumsy) reply from my side and hasty answer from yours made a bad start. Let's just forget about it.

 

reinhard

[Mark Green]

That's cool with me friend.

I will take a more straight on pic of the Katana. It may line up quite well.

Mark

[Mark Green]

More straight on pic.

I feel pretty confident that my sword is the same guy as the Fuller sword with the test cutting. I can't say that I have ever seen, a shinto Tomoyuki, false mei.

The sword matches up very well.

 

Thanks, Mark G

[Mark Green]

These are pics of the cntr mei sword. I believe to be the 2nd gen. Shinto Tomoyuki.

Typical Kanbun shinto shape. Great looking sword. Powerfull!!!

It's a shame about the Nakago getting cleaned. The folks that found it in the basement rafters of a house they just bought, didn't know any better.

Mark G

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

I have these 2 oshigata

 

 

[mdiddy]

The 2nd Oshigata from Jacques has a lot of similarity to your katana and the Robertshaw example. The 1st Oshigata I'm not sure but could be the same as the katana mei or the 1st wak? I'm not sure...

[Mark Green]

Hey thanks guys.

Jacques, Do your oshigata say what Tomoyuki these oshi are from?

Thanks guys, great help. Mark G

 

I have this one as well. From the Bungo to

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

Jacques, Do your oshigata say what Tomoyuki these oshi are from

 

The first (fujiwara) is from the shodai. I don't know for the second.

 

that one you show just above is from the nidai (there is the same in the toko taikan).

[Mark Green]

Thanks Jacques,

Great info. We should soon have enough for a book.

Anyone else out there have any Shinto, 'Bungo Tomoyuki' Oshigata, that we haven't seen yet? I would also like the pics from any papered blades, Nakago. It would be great to compile a bunch of info and do a pamphlet or something.

Thanks for any help

Mark G

[Mark Green]

New pics of the Tomoyuki Katana.

Very nice tight hada, Bright Hamon, with the usual Tomoyuki traits.

The Osaka Yakidashi that is on all my Tomoyuki, and piles of tiny inazuma, and/or Nezumi-ashi

[Mark Green]

Hada/hamon pics of the Kanbun Wak

[Mark Green]

And pics of the third.

Long Wakazashi, 22+ in. A bit looser hada, still fine Hamon, not quite the control of the other two