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  On 2/11/2025 at 9:37 AM, PNSSHOGUN said:

这把有问题的剑在拍卖会上以相当令人瞠目结舌的价格售出,它确实收到了 NTHK 的文件。有些人对 Gendai 并不特别重视任何组织,因为过去有很多相当可疑的剑被文件记录的案例。也许还有其他我们不知道的支持来源,明确证明这是 Ariga 船长拥有的......

https://www.invaluab...df2322bbd8796b8eddf2

这里有进一步的讨论:

Thank you, JOHN! I'm sorry, I didn't see this post. Actually, many years ago, I had heard about the counterfeit products made in China that almost obtained an appraisal certificate from NTHK. This might be a successful version. It seems that in the past few years, Japanese counterfeit merchants were accustomed to applying for appraisal from ordinary institutions like NTHK. This rather strange Kikusui emblem and the inconsistent inscriptions make it hard for me to believe that it is genuine.

 

 

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  On 2/11/2025 at 9:37 AM, PNSSHOGUN said:

The sword in question sold at auction for a rather eye watering sum, no doubt helped by the NTHK papers. Some don't hold any organisation in particularly high regard when it comes to Gendai, as there have been many cases of rather suspect swords receiving papers in the past. Perhaps there was other supporting provenance we are unaware of that unequivocally proves this was owned by Captain Ariga....

https://www.invaluab...df2322bbd8796b8eddf2

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Interesting John!

 

I agree about papers for gendai blades being unreliable and personally I feel that, if there was corroborating evidence for this being the captain's sword, it would've been sold (or at least mentioned and referenced) at the same auction.

 

Once again, I see the signature clearly intruding into the mekugi-ana and the other John (@John C) pointed out at the time how clumsily the kiku was engraved.

Regardless of its paper and how much it went for, I would say that this is a fake.

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  On 2/11/2025 at 10:02 AM, KungFooey said:

有趣的约翰!

 

我同意 gendai 刀片的论文不可靠,我个人觉得,如果有确凿的证据证明这是船长的剑,它应该会在同一场拍卖会上出售(或至少被提及和引用)。

 

再一次,我看到签名明显地侵入了 mekugi-ana 和另一个 John (@John C)指出了当时 kiku 的雕刻是多么笨拙。

不管它的论文和价格是多少,我都会说这是假的。

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I agree with your opinion.

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