Nakago Stamp

[Ed]

Anyone ever seen a Naval Anchor stamp like this one?

[ChrisW]

Looks very crudely done Ed. Added on after maybe?

[ROKUJURO]

Very probably not Japanese, if I look at rhe MEI.

[Bruce Pennington]

Ditto.  Love to see the rest of the nakago and blade; fittings too.

[Ed]

Blade is signed Hirata Hidemitsu.  Not much to see fittings are strewn about and I think there is no saya.  

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Looks very crude, may be from last stage of the war.

[Ed]

John, 

That is my thought, perhaps some late, last ditch effort.  It is very crude which is why I wondered if anyone else had ever seen like it or had any concrete information.

Thanks,

Ed

[Bruce Pennington]

All the parts are Army.  Odd to have a crude anchor.  Is that a barrel screw I see on the table?  Was that part of this?   A Type 98 with barrel screw?

[Ed]

Bruce,

It looks like it. It is not mine so I can't tell you much more than what we see.  My guess is that it is outfitted with a hodgepodge of fittings someone had.  The odd stamp peaked my curiosity.

Best,

Ed

[Bruce Pennington]

Ok.  I don't think it's a "stamp" per se, but an attempt to create an anchor by hand. 

[lambo35]

The metal around the edges of the impression is rounded as though it 

were pushed down as in stamping. Maybe press stamping a very hot blade. Just my WAG!

 

ps. How does it compare to stamps of the Yokosuka navel facilities/shipyard/factories?

[Bruce Pennington]

Chuck,

Not familiar with the Yokosuka operation.  Are you aware of a stamp or logo for them?

[lambo35]

Hi Bruce, just the late war Yokosuka Naval Special T99's. I believe they also made various ordnance items, ammunition etc.

Try this link: http://pre98.com/shop/scarce-Japanese-naval-special-type-99-earlyproduction

Hope it works :] it does.

When you get to the Pre98 page look for the following link: "Gone but not forgotten", it is there.

[Bruce Pennington]

Link didn't work, but I found it on their website.  I see what you're thinking.  Boy the one on the blade is really crude in comparison.  Like someone tried to recreate the image by hand.

[Dave R]

The sword at the start of this thread did not impress me, and had a dodgy vibe to it..... So for a change, I would need convincing that this one is genuine.

[Ed]

Sorry, for the delayed response, apparently the notification function isn't working.  I have received no notification of any activity and just happened to take a look today.

At any rate let me begin by saying that when starting this thread it was not my intention to impress anyone nor do I feel the need or desire to prove anything to anyone. 

 

I posted a simple photo to see if anyone had seen such a crudely done stamp.  It appears to be an anchor and it appears as Chuck mentioned previously to have "hot" stamped or pressed into the steel opposed to being cold stamped.

 

Was it original, was it added later? I do not know, which is why I am asking.

 

Sesko lists a Hirata Hidemitsu smith: 

HIDEMITSU (秀光), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Gifu – “Hidemitsu” (秀光), real name Hirata Hideo (平田秀夫), born August 1st 1903, he worked as a guntō smith.

 

Is this his work, is it gimei. ???  

The sword isn't mine, so whether or not it is shoshin or gimei is of no consequence or concern.

 

My only interest is the stamp. 

If anyone has or runs across information regarding it, I and perhaps others would be interested to know more.

Thank you,

Ed

[vajo]

Beside the signature rhe whole blade looks crude Ed. Look at the boshi and the wavy shinogi. I dont think it is a late time war sword. For me it was made outside Japan somewhere in the east.

[Bruce Pennington]

The stamp is unique, meaning I've never seen one like this before. 

[lambo35]

The stamp on the blade in question looks [design] very much like the emblem on a SNLF green field cap.

 

Chuck.

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/Japanese-naval-field-caps-depot-or-makers-marks

[Ed]

The blade looks a bit sketchy to me as well, but that is based on a few poorly taken photos. I have not seen it in hand, nor will I.  Therefore, I can offer no further insight in regards to the blade itself.

 

Chuck, I could not open that link, but would like to check it out. Could you send it to me via email?

 

Thanks to everyone for their comments.

Ed

[Kiipu]

  On 6/6/2021 at 12:28 AM, Ed said:

I could not open that link, but would like to check it out.

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I fixed the broken link for those concerned.

Japanese Naval Field Caps: Depot or Makers marks

[lambo35]

Thanx Thomas. I couldn't tell how I messed up the link.

 

 

[Ed]

Got it thanks, Ed

[Shanerw36]

I have a sword by the same smith but no anchor. I can post pics if needed. Also I’m located in the U.S in the state of Georgia