Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Report Posted May 7, 2021 May I please have some help translating a Kanzan Sato sayagaki for a Hizen Tadahiro katana? I tried my best, but much is just beyond me! I’ll start at top and work my way down. Each section will be in a different post. Please feel free to correct all mistakes no matter how minor. Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 I have no idea how to translate this section. Any help appreciated. Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 Got a little of it... but really not sure. I’ve seen the first two kanji many times at the start of what would be the blade length, but does it actually translate to nagasa or something else? Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 I just can’t read or figure out the date the attribution was made. Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 And finally... I think I got this right. Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 Thank you in advance. I know I am asking a lot. Quote
Shugyosha Posted May 7, 2021 Report Posted May 7, 2021 First part, name and title is correct. Second picture top right four kanji refers to era: “jidai Keian” which began in 1648. And I’m done - the rest is for the better linguists. 😬 Quote
SteveM Posted May 7, 2021 Report Posted May 7, 2021 Second picture 時代慶安之頃 as John says. After that Spoiler 地刃健全優作之一也 with that and the help of google-sensei, you should be able to sort it out. If not, let me know. Third picture is mostly right. The first two are 刃長 (hachō), which basically means nagasa. The last two characters on that picture are 有之. Just think of it as a set phrase intended to formally complete the sentence containing the length. The fourth picture, as you know, is the date. If you know it is the date, and you've already picked out Shōwa, the next step is almost always sorting out the zodiac year. For this, you almost don't need to be able to read the kanji exactly...you can usually pick out the zodiac year even if the written kanji is in a highly stylized grass script. In this particular case, the first component of the year is straightforward. The second component is highly stylized, but you can pick it out given that you only have 12 options (12 zodiac animals) to choose from. The part after the year is tricky. Actually, I'm not sure if the final two are correct, so I am taking a small leap of faith. Spoiler 昭和乙卯年師走吉日 The fifth picture is 寒山誌 (Kanzan shirusu) + kao Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 So here is the second try at Section 4... closer? Quote
Mark S. Posted May 7, 2021 Author Report Posted May 7, 2021 Section 2 is going to take a while... But thank you both so much. Your help is always generous and appreciated. Quote
Mark S. Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Posted May 13, 2021 From SteveM above: Second picture 時代慶安之頃 as John says. After that 地刃健全優作之一也 I tried to figure this out, and think a couple parts are close. But the overall meaning that makes sense? 地刃 = Ji ha ? 健全 = Kenzen = Healthy? 優 = Yu = Superior? 作之 = Kore = Made this 一也 = Kazuya (Ichiya?) = “one - to be” Quote
SteveM Posted May 13, 2021 Report Posted May 13, 2021 Yes - you got most of it right, although you need to put them together in a way that makes grammatical sense. It's written in "kanbun" style, so it won't have syntax or grammar like standard Japanese. I'm not a kanbun expert, but I think it goes something like 地刃健全優作之一也 Jiba ga kenzen de, kore ha ichi yūsaku ni naru. This is a masterpiece with a healthy blade surface. 1 Quote
Mark S. Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Posted May 13, 2021 Steve, Thank you for your always generous and patient guidance and knowledge. Did I get the date closer (posted before this one)? Quote
Tom Darling Posted May 15, 2021 Report Posted May 15, 2021 If this katana has a mei, it would be on interest to see it. Quote
Mark S. Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Posted May 15, 2021 More pics in the above thread... but here is the mei... Quote
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