Spartancrest Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) I am trying to compile a book on a Museum collection of tsuba, many of the images in the collection are supplied with inscription information but a number do not. I was hoping for some help with those that have no information. Any help would be appreciated - I realize the images are poor but they are all I have access to. Let me know if you would like to be included in the credits. Rather than post one at a time I have a single image of seven to start with, with reference numbers. I also realize that some inscriptions will be unreadable and/or gimei. Thanks for any help. There are only seven more inscriptions so I will add them here as well. Edited April 28, 2021 by Spartancrest new data Quote
uwe Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 A great project Dale (I’ve been doing something similar for armor for some time) So let me start with #248: “武州住正方” (Bushū ju Masakata). ....ok, fast yet #288 seems to be: “珍久” (Chinkyū) 2 Quote
Shugyosha Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 #273 - Signature is 武州住梅忠重義作 - Bushu ju Umetada Shigeyoshi Saku. Sorry, the other side is too faint for me to read. 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 A little more: #294 - Shoami Yoshishige -正阿弥吉重 42-405 - Mogarishi Soten saku - 藻柄子宗典作 Some bits and pieces that hopefully others can add to: #280 - 越前住記[ ] 作 - Echizen ju Nori[ ] saku #343 - 長州 [ ] 住友次 - Chōshū [ ] ju Tomotsugu 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 28, 2021 Author Report Posted April 28, 2021 That is fantastic service Uwe and John, can I add your N.M.B. names to the credit list in the book? That is already half the inscriptions done, many thanks to all. Quote
Shugyosha Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 Hi Dale, I feel awkward about taking any credit for this, so I hope it's OK if you don't mind leaving me out. #343 - 江府 住 辰壽 - Kōfu ju Tatsutoshi. An example of his work here: https://kojiki-gallery.com/en/tsuba-tatsutoshi-akao/ 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 28, 2021 Author Report Posted April 28, 2021 That is OK john, if you change your mind let me know. I will just put up a credit [ information aided by members of Nihonto Message Board ] how would that be? That's two translations for 343 ? The guard style I am researching does not match with the style in the link you sent. 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 Sorry Dale, the Choshu one is 444 - I read the wrong number. That’s fine regarding the credits. I’m confident that the name and first character of the place are correct and a bit of a google lead to the overall conclusion. This one here is a better likeness: ...also discussed here with a reference to tsuba at the Toledo museum of art described as being in his style. Thanks Pietro! 1 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 28, 2021 Author Report Posted April 28, 2021 Yes sorry I panicked! I did find other guards like the one in the museum - he seems to have liked to try his hand at several types. [I suppose like everyone you could get bored doing the same, same.] Thanks again. 1 Quote
uwe Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 John, I think the missing link for #280 is “内”. Hence “Echizen ju Kinai saku”! ...and for #444 it could be “萩” (Hagi)! 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted April 28, 2021 Report Posted April 28, 2021 Hi Uwe, you’re right both times. Many thanks. I did consider Hagi but it didn’t look right at the time and I should have thought of Kinai - I was looking for the artist’s name rather than a place name. That’s two more sorted. 👍 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 29, 2021 Author Report Posted April 29, 2021 Thank you both very much, It is great to add some lost information that will help future generations [I hope] Probably a few weeks away from finishing the book (so far about 330 pages) if only I had some influence on production costs, or a big firm was interested in doing a big print run to bring costs down. Print on demand has its advantages but cost is not one of them. 2 Quote
Nobody Posted April 29, 2021 Report Posted April 29, 2021 [288] 珍久 - Yoshihisa [291] 長刕住 – Choshu ju 賢久 – Yoshihisa (reading?) [426] 珍重 – Yoshishige (reading?) Quote
uwe Posted April 29, 2021 Report Posted April 29, 2021 Moriyama san, am I right in the assumption that both readings are possible for #288?! Chinkyū (珍久) also read as Yoshihisa? Quote
Nobody Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 10 hours ago, uwe said: Moriyama san, am I right in the assumption that both readings are possible for #288?! Chinkyū (珍久) also read as Yoshihisa? Yes, you are right. Actually, I thing that no one knows the correct reading. 2 Quote
uwe Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 Well, now #277, #358, #421, #448 and parts of #277 are left. So let the guesswork begin... 1 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 30, 2021 Author Report Posted April 30, 2021 I am very thankful for the translations that have been done. I am looking into 421 and 448 in a list of kao I have [there are so many that are very similar it may come down to a guess] I was never convinced 277 was genuine - may be a cast fake. In any case I have incorporated some ruled pages at the back of the book for devotees to insert their own opinions. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 Ref. 277: Second MEI KANJI is possibly MITSU 1 Quote
uwe Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, ROKUJURO said: Ref. 277: Second MEI KANJI is possibly MITSU Yes Jean, “光” is possible. My first thought was Tadamitsu, but I’m not convinced at all.... 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 Grass script and probably being cast do not improve the readability for us GAIJIN.... 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted April 30, 2021 Report Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, ROKUJURO said: Grass script and probably being cast do not improve the readability for us GAIJIN.... My attribution would probably be "tsuba". 1 1 Quote
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