My final question and one about a Tsuba

[shan]

Here is a tsuba that came with the Koshirae and Blade i have asked questions about.

I believe it to be copper.

Its as you can see of a rabbit and waves and i would like to know the story or Tale this might relate to, as well as a period for the Tsuba and school from the poeple who know.

Does this fit with the Koshirae or would it be an add on in your opinions?

This is the last of my final 3 questions.

I am then going to cease to post items on the forum.

again i will not respond unless asked to specifically.

regards

shan

 

 

 

[Bungo]

take it with a lump of salt........ bunny jumping over waves is a fertility symbol.

 

Urban sword myth ?

 

milt

[Brian]

Shan,

I haven't had a chance to look yet, but at the top of General Discussion there is a post with links to all sorts of good pdf artices, and one of those is a free download of "Legends in Japanese Art" by Joly. I would check that out for any mention of a rabbit and waves. I am sure it must relate to something. Will look more tomorrow.

 

Brian

[reinhard]

  Bungo said:

bunny jumping over waves is a fertility symbol.

 

It was invented by famous philosopher and philantropist Mr.Hugh Hefner.

 

reinhard

[Bugyotsuji]

Check out the famous story of Inaba no Hakuto. (White rabbit of Inaba)

 

He was quick enough to use sharks (or crocs) as stepping stones, but he is probably checking behind to see if they are after him.

[Nobody]

Look up “Nami Usagi” (波うさぎ).

 

There is a legend about the Moon, a hare, and waves.

That is also a theme of Noh play Chikubu-shima (竹生島), maybe.

[Patrick Hastings]

The motif shows the rabbit leaping about the waves during his crossing. He jumps from snouts and backs of sharks or alligators to cross the water. They are almost always unseen in the motif at least in sword fittings. The Rabbit lies to the predators promising them a reward if they will help him get across the waves and back to shore. They let him start crossing then try to eat him. He makes it across jumping from mouth to mouth. In the end he loses all his fur and makes it to the other side where he is found and cared for by royalty. There is more to it and many versions(in english), but that is the jist of it from all the versions I have read.

patrick

[Bungo]

Felix,

Check out Joly's Legendsin Japanese Art page 195.

" It is said that the female conceives by running on the waves on the 18th day of the 8th moon, if the sky is clear, or by ...( some foreplay which I don't think the censor will appreciate, so i won't even try ).

 

Or............. for those more " learned ", as pointed out by Nobody san, there's this totally dull entry that involved the Bonze of kencho-ji, Jikyu Zosu, visiting Chikubujima in Omi and had this moment..........alluding to some Chinese poem of old about tree, rabbit running on waves, holy lights and beginning of time and such.

See Afu Quarterly ( Summer issue ) page 78-79.

 

milt

[nihonto1001]

Shan:

 

I don't know much about this tsuba, but will be sorry to see you go. I hope you are not getting out of Nihonto all together.

 

Jon

[Bungo]

Shan ain't going anywhere, he just want people to repond to his messages without " belittle" his finds too harshly..........

 

milt

[Bungo]

" one of those is a free download of "Legends in Japanese Art" by Joly. I would check that out for any mention of a rabbit and waves "

 

there's no rabbit entry in Joly's....he listed it under " hare "

 

 

milt

[Brian]

  Bungo said:

Shan ain't going anywhere, he just want people to repond to his messages without " belittle" his finds too harshly..........

milt

If you can't take the heat..get out of the eBay..umm..er..I mean kitchen :lol:

Shan is taking good advice and doing things the right way..reading and learning and taking his time instead of rushing things. Commendable. Too many treasure hunters and not enough collectors on eBay, no?

 

Brian

[shan]

Hi gentlemen,

Not giving up collecting at all (perish the thought)

The fact is that i have far too much stuff now that needs to be researched & restored & i really need to expend my energies (and cash) on what i have already got, as opposed to what i can get :D .

That means there will be nothing new to ask about on the forum and therefore no chance that i can annoy anyone.(I hope!)

I have a couple of deals that i will be doing in the early part of the year as i promised the sellers i would,but thats it for me for a while.

I will sit back and research what i have,pay for the restoration of that which needs it,and aquire some books that will help me to achieve some of this.

If you have any literary recomendations PM me with the titles and if you have any of them for sale then let me know.

I need reference books on swords and tosogu but something a novice could understand so Visual & Descriptive references are the easiest i would guess.

I will start to buy items in the later part of the year and will be buying items that have known provenance with the occasional "Pot Luck" Item thrown in for good measure (keeps it interesting ).

I will hopefully be approaching this with a more "discerning Eye".

I also need a UK Based Ito wrapper who could do the String style ito wrap shown above.

Regards,thanks and happy christmas and new year to all of the forum Members

shan

[Ford Hallam]

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I also need a UK Based Ito wrapper who could do the String style ito wrap shown above.

 

I can personally recommend both Mick Hicks ( Maidstone in Kent ) and Richard Adams ( Tonbridge in Kent ) Pm me if you need their phone numbers.

 

cheers,

 

Ford