ChrisW Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 Hey guys, Got a friend here who sent me some pictures of a wakizashi he acquired and I thought I'd share them here. The mei gives me an off vibe, despite being unable to read it, it looks too fresh and awkwardly written. Maybe I am wrong there, so I thought I'd ask! For him, I'd like to find out: Translation Gimei or shoshin Approximate era/school Is the horimono a recent addition or period correct? Thanks guys! Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 Q1. 出羽大掾藤原国路 Dewa Daijo Fujiwara Kunimichi Quote
ChrisW Posted March 2, 2021 Author Report Posted March 2, 2021 Oof. Almost certainly gimei. Looked an Aoi Art piece and the signatures are not similar enough in my eyes. Quote
SteveM Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 Horimono could have been a later addition. Could have been contemporary. I don't think it makes an enormous difference either way. I don't think its a 20th century addition, if that is what you are wondering. Its losing some definition in the scales, which usually means its been through a few polishings, something that is corroborated by the shallow bo-hi on the other side. I'd be cautious about trying to make a judgment on the authenticity by comparing signatures over the internet. Much better to look at the sword itself and see if it has the characteristics of a Kunimichi, but this is quite hard for casual sword enthusiasts to do. Also, your friend's sword is in need of a polish, which would (hopefully) show off the activities in the hamon, and would thus help identifying it. So, it is the classical dilemma of trying to decide whether it is worth investing a couple thousand into polishing a sword that may turn out to be worth much less than the cost of the polish. 2 Quote
ChrisW Posted March 2, 2021 Author Report Posted March 2, 2021 That is probably the most troublesome situation in Nihonto with regards to identifying it as shoshin, thanks Steve! And you're right, smith could have changed signature style or had a bad day. Its not SO far off from the one I saw. I'll probably advise him to see about showing it to someone in-hand who more of an expert and perhaps getting a window done first. 2 Quote
Rivkin Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 The wear on horimono is very natural, so its probably old enough. Its location is a bit awkward, as it barely fits above the hamon, which detracts a lot from its visual impact, but its actually quite detailed. Sugata can be consistent with the early Edo, the work is most likely shinto-style also. This smith's examples unfortunately seldom have some kantei quality which can be used for definitive judgement, the work varies and can have rough hada, or tight itame etc. etc. This could be brought to shinsa as is to verify the signature. Here is an authentic signature for comparison. There are significant differences, but I don't know if they are enough to be certain its gimei. Very personal opinion - gimei, but don't hold me to it. Quote
Shugyosha Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 I think that there's some quality about the horimono. It seems like a lot of effort to go to to put a good carving on a mumei blade (assuming the signature is false and added later) as this is most likely something done to order rather than for an off-the-shelf sword. Likewise it's a lot of effort to go to to pimp a sword to pass off as shoshin if they were done together. As stated above, the wear isn't out of line with the age of the blade or with the carving on the other side so, for me, worth further investigation. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 The Horimono looks quite well done, even after a few polishes. Nice enough piece to own on the cheap with new Koshirae. 1 Quote
ChrisW Posted March 2, 2021 Author Report Posted March 2, 2021 Thank you for your help everyone! Quote
Stefan Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 Ähm, It has not the shape of the period of Dewa Daijo, the hori is wrong. yasurime does not match. Gimei. Hada and hamon can not be juged with these pictures. Quote
Shugyosha Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 Sorry if this is a dumb question, I’ve not dug deeply into this so I pray for patience, but are both Dewa Dajo Kunimichi out of the running signature-wise? Quote
Rivkin Posted March 2, 2021 Report Posted March 2, 2021 Some of the originals do have deep sori and uneven yet deep yasurime. Quote
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