b.hennick Posted October 12, 2021 Report Posted October 12, 2021 Hi Bob one or two at a time gives me something to look at every day. I don't comment that often writing nice piece just wastes everyone's time. 2 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 12, 2021 Author Report Posted October 12, 2021 Item No. 130 Tsuba in copper with bronze and brass facings , copper , shakudo and gold inlays 7.40cm x 6.90 cm x 0.50 cm Subject of the immortals Chinnan and Chokaro , Pine tree on reverse signed Miboku Masayuki , 18th Cent. Where to start with this ? A depiction of the two Sennin releasing a dragon from an alms bowl and a horse from a gourd . The detailing is not apparent until you study the scene carefully , at many different angles under a light source. From the scales on the dragons back , to the hairs on the horse's mane and tail , the three dimensional modelling of the faces and the patterns on their robes , this is all work carried out with the greatest care . On the reverse , the pine tree is a well known Hamano school characteristic but I have never seen one as good as this. The remnants of spider webs just disturbed by a hint of breeze give a wonderful dynamic to the composition and gold inlays on the trunk of the tree do not betray their presence until viewed in the correct light. The signature is very confidently and clearly incised - it purports to be that of a Big Name - Shozui , the founder of the Hamano School . Can anybody comment on this after reference to Wakayama or Haynes ? The reverse also carries an acquisition number which suggests that it was once part of a large collection. The file photographs flatten out and obscure most of the fine details on this piece - I have attempted to give a flavour of this with some more detailed pictures taken at different angles but , perhaps as it should be , this needs to be examined in hand to fully appreciate. 3 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 12, 2021 Author Report Posted October 12, 2021 Re Item No .130 Views of the reverse... This is yet another piece that I had not looked at properly until I came to do this posting. Acquired about two and a half years ago from an auction in Europe. 3 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 13, 2021 Author Report Posted October 13, 2021 Re Item No. 130 I have been asked about it , so ,the gold on the trunk of the tree is to imitate pine resin . The inlays work the same way as in real life - when you are looking at the tree with light either behind the trunk or in front of it , the resin patches appear to be very dark or black in colour ( very often invisible ) . When viewed with the light shining through at an angle , the translucent resin appears golden. Looking at the tsuba with light at the correct angle shows liquid nodules of resin running down the bark. Maybe amber of the future ? Regards 1 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 14, 2021 Author Report Posted October 14, 2021 Item No. 131 Iron Tsuba 7.07 cm x 6.97 cm x 0.50 cm Sukashi water wheel, mumei, guess age as late 18th cent. . Very dark patina with iron bones in evidence. Info with this piece reads ' Kanayama Genji Guruma ' can anyone make sense of this ? Of course there is the Genji family line of the Mizuno school , spreading over 350 years or so , but this is well outside my area of experience. Item No. 132 Iron Tsuba 8.01 cm x 7.92 cm x 0.40 cm Tsuba that appears at first sight to be modern made , but seems to have been hand made and possibly mounted . Could this an early hobbyist's piece ? What does the kanji read ? Quote
Geraint Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 Dear Bob. Assuming your pictures are transposed, the Kanayama tsuba is in the form of a cartwheel or kuruma. There is an episode in the Tale Of Genji to which it refers but we will have to wait for George to pin it down. As to the other, well the shape of the ryohitsu and the sepps dai, alignment of the initial drilling around the mimi, not to mention the poor quality of the piercing of the rays......... All the best. Quote
kissakai Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 What a wonderful surface on No 131, I'd have had it as earlier than late 18th cent but still learning but one I'd like to own Quote
Bob M. Posted October 16, 2021 Author Report Posted October 16, 2021 Item No. 133 Three ' orphan ' fuchi one in shakudo , the other two in shibuichi. 133a - Garden lantern and pine tree in relief , signed Hamano Yasuyuki 133b - Clouds with demons , signed Nomora Masamitsu with kao 133c - Stream and reeds , signed Sekienshi Tsuchiya Yasuchika Provenence - Lundgren Collection nos. 222 , 243 and 257 respectively Purchased some two and a half years ago at auction. 2 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Posted October 17, 2021 Item No. 134 Iron Tsuba 8.35 cm x 8.23 cm x 0.40 cm Subject bamboo leaves/shoots , aoi leaves and geese ? Mimei, Bushu or Choshu late 18th century ? Item No. 135 Copper fuchi / Kashira with gold , shakudo and red copper detailing. Subject of Crane in flight , pine and ume ? blossom . Kao signature. Quote
Gunome Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Bob M. said: Item No. 134 Iron Tsuba 8.35 cm x 8.23 cm x 0.40 cm Subject bamboo leaves/shhoys and geese ? Mimei, Bushu or Choshu late 18th century ? Hello, What about Kyo shoami ? 2 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 18, 2021 Author Report Posted October 18, 2021 There are a number of tsubas in the collection that are signed Nobuie - I will be posting these over the next few weeks interspersed with the normal additions to the thread. Most of these will be 'Nobuie revival ' , I expect. There is good reason to believe that one of them was papered by the NBTHK as Myochin Nobuie ... There must be some Members out there who could steer me in the right direction , please ? The first of these - Item No. 136 Iron Tsuba 7.72 cm x 7.15 cm x 0.57 cm Hot stamped iron tsuba , heavy , with many iron bones ,shows evidence of mounting . Consistant dark brown patina , faint carvings of leaves and tendrils. 1 Quote
Tanto54 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Posted October 18, 2021 Hi Bob, sorry I'm late in my posting about Item 131 @Geraintgets the atari! The subject is a cart wheel from a "Genji Guruma" (a generic term for an Imperial Ox Cart) on a Kanayama School tsuba. As Geraint said, it comes from the Tale of Genji (considered by many scholars to be the World's first novel) about the romantic exploits of Prince Genji. There are several chapters in the book that refer to Genji Guruma ("guruma" is the euphonic of Kuruma or "car" in Japanese) but the best known is the Aoi chapter. In the case of tsuba like this though, it is just a generic imperial cart wheel and probably doesn't refer to a specific chapter in the book. We often see these cart wheels on tosogu in water (soaking up moisture to keep them from splitting in use). The meaning was something like you have to prepare yourself under difficult conditions to be ready to be useful later. 3 Quote
kissakai Posted October 18, 2021 Report Posted October 18, 2021 It will be interesting to see your Nobuie tsuba as there are so many later versions Quote
Tanto54 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Posted October 19, 2021 Hey Bob, just trying to catch-up on some of your excellent postings that I missed. I really liked No. 130. The various sennin (Immortals) have such interesting powers like the ability to conjure dragons and horses from their gourds and bowls. The detail on your tsuba looks great with many artistic attention to details (like the stylistic rain-dragon and realistic horse). The golden amber that you wrote about was one of those aspects that the maker spent a lot of time doing but only very few people would ever spot it - amazing! No. 130 is Hamano School and is signed "Shoryuken Teruyuki". Teruyuki was a student of Hamano Shigeyuki but he was not one of the four masters of the Hamano School (so he never used the Miboku name like Shozui). I’ve attached Teruyuki’s mei from Wakayama and I'm sure that it is a match. Teruyuki worked in Edo in the mid to late 1800’s. I also really liked your three orphan fuchi No. 133. The Lungren Collection had so many great items, and I really enjoy going through that Auction Catalogue from time to time. Orphans don't bother me if they are great art (and I think that yours are). The moon's reflection in the stream on No. 133c (reproduced below) is really top notch. That is a theme that Natsuo borrowed many times to great effect (and I remember Ford using it too...) I also enjoyed the attention to detail in the Oni's shorts on No. 133b. As you may know, because tigers were not endemic to Japan, the Japanese mistakenly believed for centuries that male tigers had stripes and female tigers had spots. Even today, we often see togosu misidentified as a tiger and leopard when really its just a male and female tiger. In the classic image of an Oni (demon), the Oni wears tiger fur shorts. On your fuchi, one Oni has stripes on his shorts and the other Oni has spots - awesome attention to detail that gave me a good laugh. The Japanese will fix broken or damaged treasures and instead of trying to hide the repair, they will often highlight it with gold lacquer. The bowl (for example) was a fabulous work of art before it was dropped, and it's a shame that it was damaged, but if properly repaired, it is still a great work of art (albeit at a lower price...). Shouldn't we feel the same way about orphan menuki and fuchigashira? Anyone have a Masamune with the tip chipped off through the boshi? I'll be happy to take it off your hands... 5 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Posted October 20, 2021 Re Item No. 136 Any ideas ? - Is this ' Faux Nobuie ' or does it have some age or is is not possible to tell unless held in hand ? I know it is not easy to give an opinion as there is nothing else to help put the tsuba in context... Thanks ! Quote
Bob M. Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Posted October 20, 2021 Item no. 137 iron Tsuba 7.43 cm x 7.12 cm x 0.50 cm Subject of broken fans Shoami 18th Cent. Rich dark patina on a tsuba bearing a classic sukashi subject. Recent purchase. 3 Quote
Geraint Posted October 20, 2021 Report Posted October 20, 2021 Dear Bob. With regard to no. 136, I am sure that you will already have seen this but just in case....http://www.shibuiswords.com/nobuie6.htm Keep'em coming! All the best. 1 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 21, 2021 Author Report Posted October 21, 2021 Item No. 138 - Iron Tsuba with shakudo 7.95 cmc x 7.48 cm x 0.46 cm over plain, 0.70 cm over rim Carved with images of bushes and trees in winter ? ( No leaves ) Nice iron , ornate shakudo plugs , oily wet patina on plate showing careful forging and texturing. Evidence of being mounted several times. In fact almost everything you would want in a tsuba by Nobuie - maybe just a little too good ? Opinions anyone ? Two pairs of photographs against different backgrounds bring out different details. 3 Quote
Bob M. Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Posted October 23, 2021 Item No. 139 - Iron tsuba with gold accents 7.35 cm x 6.53 cm x 0.25 cm Subject of watery landscapes with fisherman and boat , geese flying into land. Signed Kaneie ? Edo period Subtle design and execution of subject , difficult to see clearly , contrasts with the almost brutal shaping and folding of the iron plate . Nicely forged and worked surface with good patina. Bought some eight and a half years ago direct from Japan Item No. 140 Iron Tsuba with gold and silver 7.85 cm x 7.44 cm x 0.49 cm Subject of stylised map of Japan on a background of waves , together with a banner in Silver and Gold in clouds on reverse. The names of the provinces inscribed in gold nunome. Signed Joshu Masanobu ju Umetada Tachibana Shigeyoshi. Umetada School 17th Cent. Painstaking work on the map , still in very good condition after nearly 400 years. 3 3 Quote
b.hennick Posted October 23, 2021 Report Posted October 23, 2021 Bob your collection continues to impress! Well done. I look forward to seeing what you have for us each day. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted October 23, 2021 Report Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Brian said: A map! Wow. Impressive. Is the reverse not a maedate? Love love the 🌚 1 Quote
DirkO Posted October 23, 2021 Report Posted October 23, 2021 https://www.tosoguya.com/umetada_gohei_map_tsuba.html please see a very similar tsuba here. 2 Quote
GRC Posted October 25, 2021 Report Posted October 25, 2021 Ok, your map tsuba is awesome, and I think even better than the one that's in the Osaka Museum (see link posted by Dirk). I also really like 138, although in my limited experience, I have yet to see a Nobuiye in that shape before. Does anyone have a reference for a Nobuiye in that shape? Quote
MauroP Posted October 25, 2021 Report Posted October 25, 2021 @Glen Here a Nobuie tsuba with hineri-kaeshi-mimi (but as far as I can see Bob's tsuba is signed Kaneie) Quote
GRC Posted October 25, 2021 Report Posted October 25, 2021 Hi Mauro, That image is referring to Bob's #139. I was talking about Bob's #138 which does not have folded over corners and is more "flower-like". Quote
Bob M. Posted October 25, 2021 Author Report Posted October 25, 2021 Item No. 141 - Fuchi Kashira in Shibuichi , Gold and Shakudo Subject of quail amongst millet, signed Naomine Part of large lot , bought at auction 8 years ago Item No. 142 Iron Tsuba with gold 7.50 cm x 7.18 cm x 0.53 cm Subject of Moon in clouds with cuckoo . Below , a stream flows quietly by ... Signed Eiju ( Seiryuken ) with seal- originally with the Tetsugendo school. A beautifully imagined scene with the depiction of the stream bank of particular note. . 4 Quote
GRC Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 I thought I recognized 142... had some images in my files. Yours is in much better condition 1 Quote
Ford Hallam Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 18 hours ago, GRC said: I thought I recognized 142... had some images in my files. Yours is in much better condition Why thank you 1 2 Quote
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