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Nobody Grand Master

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This is my guess.

 

 

陸奥大掾三善長道 (Mutsu daijo Miyoshi Nagamichi)

 

會津住人藤四郎 (Aizu junin Toshiro)

 

If the mei is genuine, it was made in early Edo period.

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Kenpachi316

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sorry about the quality of the photos, ive linked them in at full size though.

 

i can go back and link other ones to full size if anyone wants.

 

upon close inspection there is a small chip in the spine of the blade behind the hi, about half way up, it doesnt show on any photos but it can be felt with touch.

 

all fittings tsuka saya etc are in good shape

 

blade in good polish

 

it has 29" nagasa cutting edge, and is surprisingly heavy for a blade wi hi. (to my low-med production level experience)

 

what do you guys think this blade might fetch? a rough estimate of course.

 

thanks again

ric

Brian

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Ric,

Compare your sword, activity and shape to this one: http://www.sanmei.com/shop_e/media/T277 ... _PUP_E.htm

That should give you the basics on the smith that signed that way. This should be the guy who made your sword, however bear in mind that gimei is very common and there is always the risk of a false signature. However even if this is the case (and I haven't compared the mei yet) it still looks like a nice blade that is worth caring for and finding out more about.

Perhaps Moriyama san can help with the translation of Aizu junin Toshiro as I am unsure of that one.

If it is at the right price, it looks like a nice blade to acquire and possibly restore. Ubu, and in fair to good shape from what i can see. When buying, always assume gimei, and anything better is a bonus. Pricing is impossible to guess. If it was around $1500 or $2000..it may be worth the gamble.

 

Brian

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Grey,

True, I think I was lowballing that price. (Must have had my own budget in mind :lol: ) Bearing in mind it needs to be carefully checked for any flaws and maybe gimei, it still should go higher than that. Also, in Nihonto it seems that size does count, and a 73.6cm nagasa will increase the price, as does a well cut hi.

This is why we avoid prices like the plague here :D

 

Brian

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Kenpachi316

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i wont request any more prices, no worries,

thanks guys you are a great help.

 

i am being told this 'the blade would be deemed as having a fatal flaw by a polisher because of the chip in the spine'

 

any thoughts?

Brian

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Thanks john, I was unsure of where the Toshiro came from. Real name?

Ric, you are always welcome to ask prices, just expect the answers to be vague, incorrect or uncertain :)

If you mean it has a chip on the back of the blade, then unless it is very deep indeed or a crack, it is unlikely to be fatal or much worry at all. How about a pic?

Main fatal flaws occur in the hamon where the hardened edge is so critical. It depends on what kind of "chip" you have there. The type that could come from another sword blow in battle can even increase interest..but could just as likely have come from little Timmy "sword fighting" with his brother...

 

Brian

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Kenpachi316

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it seems impossible to get the chip to show up in a picture.

 

a rough estimate price was what i was after, and is what i got so i am thankful there.

i wouldnt ask you for a comprehensive evaluation quote.

 

i think this sword has just found its new owner, id best sell a few production ones.

 

thankyou all for your help

i will definately have more to post soon.

Nobody Grand Master

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Brian, I think 'Aizu junin Toshiro', just means a man named Toshiro who lives in Aizu province. John

And Toshiro is another name of Nagamichi.

Grey Doffin Grand Master

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Ric,

From what I know and can tell from the pictures, with the koshirae and at that nagasa, I would say that $2,000 and maybe a bit more would be safe. Without knowing more, I wouldn't say that at $2,500 or above, especially in today's market.

In other words, even if the sword is gimei and has a few very minor problems, it should be worth 2 - 2.5K, but probably not too much more. Of course, if the mei is right and there are no problems, it is worth more, and if there are serious problems (ha giri, nioi giri, retemper, bad fukure, etc.), it would be worth less.

This is just a guess; probably all anyone can give you given the lack of information we're working with.

Hope this helps, Grey

Brian

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Ric,

Gimei is a falsely signed blade. Ie..one signed by someone other than the smith himself. Done for many reasons, and remarkably common. When seeing a big name on a blade, it is very often gimei, added later to fool buyers. There are many reasons for gimei, but basically means it wasn'tmade by the smith whose name is on it.

Not critical, and many fine blades are gimei. Don't know about yours. That is a job for the professionals. It is in no way fatal and doesn't detract from what you see in the blade.

Always a possibility though. Search the forum for "reasons for gimei" or just gimei and you will find tons of info.

 

Regards,

Brian

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