Mei or nonsense?

[Brian]

Hi all,

Here is a fuchi I have with a signature that doesn't seem to make sense to me. Some of the characters look like sosho, and then there are others that look odd to me. I was wondering if there are actually a signature, or just some random scrawl?

I like the fuchi, the nanako looks well done and I like the patina on the inner seeds, but would be interesting if I could link it to a maker if possible.

 

Thanks,

Brian

[shan]

Hi Brian,

Thats nice.

I agree that it looks to the untrained eye "wrong" in some way.

cannot help you but i like it.

No kashira i guess?

shan

[Bungo]

I see nothing " fishy " about the mei................meaning it's signed by edo-period Japanese artist.

shoshin or not, that's another story

milt

[John A Stuart]

It has the feeling of something like Saburokawa. No such guy. Not having much luck lately with these toughies though. John

[Bungo]

a listed late edo artist.........

page 105 of that thick tosogu kinko book by Wakayama ( spelling ? )

the first 3 kanji looks like his art name/title ( san < 3 > , X , ji ), followed by 2 kanji that could be the last name ( Kyo, Ko, naru < BIG in Chinese > ; sen, kawa, gawa < meaning stream in Chinese > ).

Can't find any sample mei to compare..............just as well, so no one can poo poo it

 

p.s. I like the workmanship.

 

milt

[Nobody]

The last part looks 巨川 (maybe Kyosen?).

The first part could be 三江子, though I am totally unsure.

[John A Stuart]

That wouldn't be Sokoji, like the Soto temple from Takayama now in Mihara would it? Makes no sense as a name so far. John

[Brian]

Thanks so much guys, at least I wasn't crazy in being confused by this one :D

Hopefully someone recognises it. I really do have to get a few Wakayama books.

Here is a larger pic if it helps.

 

Brian

[Bungo]

That wouldn't be Sokoji, like the Soto temple from Takayama now in Mihara would it? Makes no sense as a name so far. John

 

John,

I see

" no problem " with that being an art name...........like Baghdad Bob ( remember that guy ? ).

With Taoist practitioners, most of the " priest's " title are like " X.X. Ji "

 

Not saying this guy is a taoist, but The last 2 kanji ( family name ) is listed in the book.......ONE entry , there's no other guy with that family name listed.

 

 

milt

[Brian]

I see that Haynes does list one artist with the name of Kyosen and seems to match the kanji Moriyama san posted. No real info on him, or first name. Seen on a pair of menuki. Wonder if this is our guy...巨川 does look probable to me.

 

Brian

[John A Stuart]

Brian, I saw that entry and wondered if that was the fellow too. Milt, With you and Koichi san's Kyosen reading, I had thought Kyosen was the art name and Sokoji the place it was made like Choshu ju.... or Echizen ju ...., sort of how a lot of artisans lived near temples and identified with a particular temple/shrine. So, Sokoji, as part of his overall name, may mean he was a priest craftsman, like Hokkyo indicates an artist with a priestly title? Neat. John

[Nobody]

Though I cannot read the first part, I am almost sure that the part is also an art name such as x-x-sai (- 斎), x-x-tei (- 亭), and x-x-shi (- 子). If the part is 三江子 , it may read Sankoshi.