Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 13, 2021 Report Posted January 13, 2021 Okay. I think this one is a fake as there are no hitsuana and the material appears to be modern age iron. Any other telltale signs I am missing? Quote
Mark Posted January 13, 2021 Report Posted January 13, 2021 i agree. looks painted gold and silver Quote
raaay Posted January 13, 2021 Report Posted January 13, 2021 100% fake , lots of these around . Quote
Tanto54 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Posted January 13, 2021 Your eye is getting better Jesse. There are many other indicators, but as Mark said the poorly painted gold and silver should tip you off right away. Another clear tip is the rough edge from casting/stamping. Another more subtle hint (one that is good to use for the better fakes) is that the signature (mei) looks pressed in (cast or stamped) instead of cut with a chisel. 1 Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Posted January 13, 2021 thanks everyone for the additional tips! I bought "Lethal Elegance" by Joe Earle and have been studying it.... 2 Quote
Spartancrest Posted January 13, 2021 Report Posted January 13, 2021 Jesse You will also note the over run of metal into the nakago-ana. A lot of fast production fakes have this, as well there is a tendency for a V shaped bottom of the nakago-ana rather than a straight line. Like George has said the 'mei' is wrong it is rather wide and not like it should be if cut with a chisel. Fakes can even have sekigane simulated by an outline marked by different colour, not a cutout and filled with copper [ this is not present of course on your example. Quote
JohnTo Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 Jesse, No one seems to have mentioned the obvious test. Put a magnet on it. Its an obvious fake and I doubt if its even iron. Hopefully you did not pay a lot of money for it a a major auction house. Best regards Quote
Tanto54 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 Hi John, I don't think that the magnet test is really an indicator of fakes. As you know, many of the legitimate tsuba are not iron and will not attract a magnet, so the magnet test merely tells you whether the "tsuba" is attracted to a magnet or not (and therefore gives you a better idea of what the tsuba is made of). When I look at the tsuba in question, I think it is trying to emulate shakudo or shibuichi. Neither of those alloys would be attracted to a magnet, so the magnet test would not give any indication of whether it was fake or not. Quote
Spartancrest Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 Every collector needs his Magnet that's for sure! I bought what I took to be a mokume of different alloys of copper only to discover under the layers of spray painted clear lacquer that in fact the guard was iron and much better than expected! [Any help in getting rid of modern spray coating would be most appreciated!] Simple tools like a magnet and a bone/antler or ivory stick are things beginners should get hold of. Fakes are always going to be a problem - they are just getting better at it all the time [not the one pictured] Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 15, 2021 Author Report Posted January 15, 2021 Hi John! Nope, I didnt bid on it. Taking my lumps virtually before sinking cash into garbage. Gotta say that Dale is a font of knowledge! Wow Jesse 1 Quote
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