Leather hanger for Type 95 Cavalry 騎兵用?

[BANGBANGSAN]

I found some photos of the leather hanger for Type 95, it might be for cavalry use.It's a little too big for Type 32.
This style hanger is on Fuller's book P40.

Nick has post price sheet of cavalry use Type 95 on here https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/Japanese-militaria/short-development-history-type-95-gunto-676112-19/ post #181

 

[Bruce Pennington]

That's cool, Trystan!  Seeing the pics on Fuller's book, I had just assumed the leather was full length.  Nice to see real examples.

[Kiipu]

Could it be 中国人民解放军 (PLA)?  The Chinese 65式骑兵刀 used a two hanger setup.  It would be nice to compare this setup alongside a Type 65 Sword.  Correct me if I am wrong, but this a shoulder harness rig.

 

I know of one other two hanger Type 95 but in this case the second hanger is located on the drag.

Has anyone come across this Stamp before??

 

Thanks for sharing the pictures Trystan.

[BANGBANGSAN]

Thomas
This is not for the Chinese Type 65. Not only becauseT65 has two rings of the leather piece on the scabbard, the one I showed has one ring on the leather piece, and it has an open space that allows the ring on the scabbard to go through. Also, the leather parts are too big for T65 and T32. Here is the photo of T65's.PLA might have copied the design of Type 95's hanger though.

 

[Kiipu]

Thank you for the additional information.  I poorly worded my reply above so I will clarify here.  I was thinking the leather hanger could have been made by the Chinese PLA for use with captured Japanese swords.

[BANGBANGSAN]

On 12/18/2020 at 1:23 AM, Kiipu said:

 

 

I know of one other two hanger Type 95 but in this case the second hanger is located on the drag.

Has anyone come across this Stamp before??

 

 

Talking about shoulder strap.Check this out,not the official one .

[BANGBANGSAN]

7 minutes ago, Kiipu said:

Thank you for the additional information.  I poorly worded my reply above so I will clarify here.  I was thinking the leather hanger could have been made by the Chinese PLA for use with captured Japanese swords.

That's possible too.

[Bruce Pennington]

Man, those are some really great photos!

 

I noticed in the middle one that his sarute is gone.  Just adds another layer of depth to the stories of the gunto we see in the collecting world.

[Kiipu]

@BANGBANGSAN Not sure if this helps but some more pictures for you to look at.  Be sure to click on the pictures to see full size.

Sword Combat Cover

[Stegel]

Here's one you don't see very often.

I believe it to be an IJA Gunto backsling.

[Kiipu]

Cross-reference to another Type 95 which has a leather adapter for a 2nd hanger.

WWII Japanese Army NCO Type 95 Shin-Gunto Sword

[Kiipu]

Cross-Reference

Officers with Katana in back position

[Bruce Pennington]

Several good photos and good discussion on that link!  Thanks Thomas!

[BANGBANGSAN]

On 12/19/2020 at 4:06 AM, Kiipu said:

Thank you for the additional information.  I poorly worded my reply above so I will clarify here.  I was thinking the leather hanger could have been made by the Chinese PLA for use with captured Japanese swords.

Found this ,seems it is for cavalry use.

 

[Kiipu]

Quote

4-1 As the Type 95 Military Sword 九五式軍刀 is also becoming the official guntō for apprentice officers 見習士官, the sword belt 刀帶 and sword-knot 刀緒 for apprentice officers are being added to the accessories list of the Type 95 sword.

 

4-2 As the Type 95 Military Sword is also becoming the official guntō for cavalry 騎兵 apprentice officers, the sword belt for cavalry apprentice officers are being added to the accessories list of the Type 95 sword.

 

Translation courtesy of Nick Komiya.  The document above is dated 1940-07-05.

[Bruce Pennington]

This one appears to be a white strip of fabric.  Odd looking sword, too, as the tsuka looks unusually long.  Maybe a family/civil sword?

 

 

Full photo over an this Gunboards thread.