Type 94 2nd Haikan & Tassels

[PNSSHOGUN]

Presented here are most of the known types of 2nd removable Haikan/Ashi/Hanger. Without doubt there are probably other types/variants out there, if you have one different from these it would be of great interest. The side hinged mounting type is particularly unusual and quite rare.

[PNSSHOGUN]

Please enjoy examples of the early style tassels found on the Type 94, unfortunately I don't have the General grade example (please share if you have one!). The main identifiers for the early tassels are:

• Thinner straps
• Opposite coloured borders of the straps
• Longer

 

Comparison of the early style vs standard:

 

 

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Both examples together on Type 94:

 

[Brian]

John,
Let's try something I am trialing...
Go into the Gallery above, and into the Military Reference Section.
Then Add Images, and create a new folder. Because you are Gold, you can create folders and upload. Now create a new folder called Hangers/Ashi
Now upload those images one at a time into the folder. You can add a description/explanation if needed on each image.
Then another folder called Tassels. And the same.
I am looking to see if we can create a gallery encyclopedia for swords, where people can put reference images that would because the standard reference for that category.
Still playing with who will be what permissions. But I think it would be great for the military guys (tassels, NCO variants, mantetsu etc etc etc) and then also into the Nihonto section, where we can show schools or smiths or whatever.
Taking it slow, but do you and Bruce and the other guys was to try and see where it gets us? Let's not go mad with hundreds of images just yet, but I want to improve the features here.

[PNSSHOGUN]

This is a great idea, perhaps it should be occasionally monitored so the folders are decent reference material? I've made the two folders here:

 

 

 

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[Brian]

Now we are getting somewhere. I moved the albums to put them into a hierarchy. So now you go into military...then choose a category like hangers, and then in that album we can create folders of different ones.
It looks like it will work well, just going to play with permissions.
I would like members to come up with ideas for other albums, but we'll start a new thread on that.
It won't be limited to military swords.

[IJASWORDS]

Great collection John. 

[Mark C]

Excellent John,

 

Is there any standard/average lengths for the early and standard Tassels?

 

All the best

[PNSSHOGUN]

Average length for tassels is around 49cm, the early ones can blow past 56cm.

[Bruce Pennington]

Type 94 Removeable Ashi

That’s a nice collection Jon. There are some more examples on this thread:

[Ontario_Archaeology]

Here are a few of my additions, note that the longer general tassel (far right) has a chance of being a repo, it is different from the other 2, but it has more similarities to the other 2 real ones than the repo i have in my collection. 

 

 

 

 

[Ontario_Archaeology]

Tassels are around 50cm

 

[Brian]

Matt,
I created a new album for general's tassels and uploaded your pic, and changed the author to yourself. People can add a few pics and create a new album for other tassels.
It seems to be working nicely and while I don't want discussions in the gallery section, it will be a nice reference area.

[Mister Gunto]

Great photos, and great idea on the reference photo albums!

[PNSSHOGUN]

In the General tassel you suspect may be a replica is the zig-zag pattern made from bullion or yellow thread?

[Ontario_Archaeology]

It's a bullion thread, the quality is lower than the other two. I can take more close up shots and post them here or dm them if you don't want them digressing the thread 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Another variation I haven't seen before:

 

 

[Bruce Pennington]

That's cool, John!  I had to look at the others for a bit to see the difference, but I see it.