water wheel tsuba genuine or fake ??

[Yamazakura Fr]

Hello

I need your help about this water wheel tsuba

6,6 cm diameter

0,4 cm thick

What do you think about this ??

Thank you

Regards

[Fuuten]

Everything seems off plus the work seems terrible. I would vote bin.

[Bugyotsuji]

If you’re going to bin it, please send it to me. 😊

[sabiji]

Not water wheel, but kikusui...😉

[Shugyosha]

Doesn't look like a great example but I'd hesitate to dismiss it as a fake. The  inlaid water droplets (and that some are missing) suggest a level of care over and above that found in most fakes which would simply be a cast copy.

[lonely panet]

real, but uglyer then a hat full of assholes

[Spartancrest]

I have to agree with John J. the ten-zogan is real and what remains of it is well done. I would say the theme is Chrysanthemum flower on water like Thomas S. suggested "Floating Chrysanthemum" = kikusui. The waves are a bit hurried but I have seen worse.

[ROKUJURO]

Bernard,

most of the photos are upside-down, but other than that the little TSUBA is o.k. Condition is so là là... 

[Surfson]

Looks ok to me too.  Has an Onin style with the nails, and a kokinko style with the waves, but my sense is that it is a later tribute to those schools.

[Fuuten]

The inlays seem so large and can't put my finger on the specific thing or variable that makes them look 'boring' - that's not it but they appear so large and unsightly to me they just look like a bad imitation of what such inlay can be or is supposed to be. Also the dots that are 'missing' they just look like they were added to give that effect. I'm wondering whether Ford would lean towards a novice metalworker's work or just outright fake, albeit perhaps better executed than some cast of handworked imitation..

 

Now please don't take the above personal because this is just how it appears to me at this moment in time and I'm not even a layman or novice in this world. What do I know, curious to see more input.

[Spartancrest]

Bernard, there is a first cousin example very much like your guard -  https://www.jauce.com/auction/u404604446

In this case rather than waves being depicted, it is amida-yasuri representing the halo of the Buddha and a single cherry flower. It is described as contemporary work.