roger dundas Posted October 30, 2020 Report Posted October 30, 2020 Is this the place to ask the question- Just how different, if at all, were the earliest kozuka and blades from those we see today ? I don't know that I have seen any early examples posted. Hoping those with any examples are o.k with the question and might oblige with some pictures ? Roger j Quote
roger dundas Posted November 1, 2020 Author Report Posted November 1, 2020 Was the question not worth considering ? I was just wondering about how much kozuka and ko-gatana had changed and evolved from earlier times . I have never researched this particular topic and thought someone might like to tell what they know ? The knowledge of Board members is usually broad and enlightening- especially in these (for some 'fraught') times. Thank you. Roger j Quote
Jean Posted November 1, 2020 Report Posted November 1, 2020 Roger, you are going to be very disappointed. Kozuka/kogatana appeared at the very end of Nambokucho and became more common in Muromachi with the rise of daisho. You won’t find them easily. There is a Japanese book on kogatana which should fill you with happiness😀 1 1 Quote
Curran Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 +1 What Jean said. I was just reading the JSSUS publication on ko-kinko yesterday, looking at very early kogai, and thinking on muromachi ko-kinko kozuka. I haven't purchased much this year, but I did pick up an late muromachi ko-kinko kozuka. It is the second one I have owned, and the geometry on both of them is a bit different. Longer, thinner, slightly higher raised. Thanks to Darcy, I got to study a full mitokoromono set years ago and first noted some of the slight differences in geometry. Quote
roger dundas Posted November 2, 2020 Author Report Posted November 2, 2020 Thank you Jean and Curran for that . A not so old ancestry and little change. I asked because I have seen tsuba with broader than usual apertures/ana and wondered if it indicated a larger ko-gatana or kodzuka but apparently not. So again, thanks. Roger j Quote
Bob M. Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 Hi, Understand this to be Ko-Goto from Muromachi period - oldest in my collection - 9.6 x 1.33 cm 2 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 Hi Roger, A ko Goto (I believe) kogai naoshi kozuka. It's essentially part of a kogai that has been re-purposed as a kozuka with the original inro motif and surrounding shakudo nanako set in smooth shakudo frame: 3 1 Quote
Curran Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 @John J. Very nice example. @Roger D. Late muromachi and momoyama was also the period of O-kozuka. Fred Weissberg of Nihonto.com has an excellent high end collection of them. I rarely see them come to market, so they must have been uncommon. Conclude from this that sizes varied a lot more during earlier period? 1 Quote
roger dundas Posted November 3, 2020 Author Report Posted November 3, 2020 Once again, thank you for the information and great examples pictured. Roger j. 1 Quote
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