Ankh Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Posted October 15, 2020 Hi everybody! I need help from you guys who have a long collection experience! Can you guys help me with comments and advice on this case? shirasaya and habaki have been added by me so it's not original! is mei really smith gassan sadakatsu? Quote
vajo Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Who ever made this mei is very good in carving 😃. As for such an important smith there is no way without shinsa and papering. I would say no from the pictures. Btw the nakago is cleaned and a no go. And the blade looks like a amateur had polished it. But maybe you have some luck. 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Did you polish the blade and clean the nakago, in addition to your shirasaya and habaki work? 1 Quote
Brian Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Sounds like he got it in that state. I won't comment on the mei except to say any ken are scarce, and should be carefully investigated. If it has a chance of being shoshi, then a repatination of the nakago is possible, and a polish would make it look great. It does have a well finished nakago, so even if gimei it may benefit from some professional work. 1 Quote
Jacques Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Yes mei reads Osaka ju Gassan Sadakatsu saku, but unfortunately it's gimei. 1 Quote
Ankh Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, vajo said: Who ever made this mei is very good in carving 😃. As for such an important smith there is no way without shinsa and papering. I would say no from the pictures. Btw the nakago is cleaned and a no go. And the blade looks like a amateur had polished it. But maybe you have some luck. Yes, thank you for the feedback! sorry can i ask "shinsa" what is it? I'm a newbie so it's very vague 😅 Quote
uwe Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Dated “October Taishô 11” = 1922. Didn’t he die in 1918....? Quote
Ankh Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray Singer said: Did you polish the blade and clean the nakago, in addition to your shirasaya and habaki work? Tiếng Việt Tiếng Anh I do not do it! I understand the value of that rust, but it seems its owner loves the job! I saw him remove that rust up to 3 nihonto bars and this tongue is one of them! Note: in my country is not allowed to collect swords, it is forbidden so these blades are scrap from Japan brought back as scrap that can be used as mechanical parts! sorry my english is very bad Please sympathize if I used the wrong words ... 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Sadakazu died in Taisho, Sadakatsu died in Showa. 2 Quote
Gakusee Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 By far not an expert here but the nakago could have been preserved like this. We are talking about only 100 years and if there was not much handling and tight preservation, it is possible for it to have stayed like that. See attached examples of mostly Hozon Token Sadakatsu from various DTI catalogues. Regarding the mei, there are sufficient differences in execution and handwriting....... but the form is indeed rare and not typical to counterfeit. 3 Quote
Ray Singer Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Hi Michael, no argument at all that you can occasionally find older blades with pristine nakago. Have seen several shinshinto blades with nakago that could have passed for shinsakuto in terms of preservation. In this case though, patina remains visible in the crevasses of the yasurimei, while bare of patina on the surface of the nakago. The OP also said he observed the previous owner subjecting the nakago to a cleaning. 1 Quote
vajo Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 Ankh the sword shape looks good. Can you make some pictures with better light to see the hamon and the hada? 1 Quote
Ankh Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Posted October 15, 2020 Thank you very much for the information provided! I will try to add more photos! now i only have this photo! I thought that taking pictures was easy, until I took it! LOL 1 Quote
Ankh Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Posted October 16, 2020 I struggled really hard trying to take the pictures! It seems the hada has nothing in its current state! Do these pictures tell you anything? Please give me more advice! Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 The flash seems to help, see if you can get more photos with the flash on different sections of the blade. 1 Quote
vajo Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 The pictures looks promising Ankh. 1 Quote
Babu Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Gents there is evidence of polishing the Nakago as the yasureme at the highest points are rubbed flat. I had a late shin shinto 1870 echizen tanto signed Kanetsugu years ago and there was literally no rust or patina on the Nakago it looked new but the yasureme was not flattened out as this is. 1 Quote
vajo Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Looks like a fine running masame hada with a suguha-ba hamon and a dense noi-deki. The polish is bad, you see that on that dark shadow of center and after a professional polish the blade would look like great. Looks like you have a nice sword ankh. 1 Quote
Ankh Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Posted October 16, 2020 Thanks for all the comments from you guys! I am very grateful for that! It seems like it takes a professional polishing artist to restore its original beauty, doesn't it? Quote
Jacques Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 A tanto made the same year here : http://sanmei.com/contents/media/A69560.html 1 Quote
Ankh Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Posted October 16, 2020 I have compared very similar handwriting! but his style is usually osaka ju gassan sadakatsu kin saku (kao)! Does anyone have more information on this matter? Or is it really just a gimei? Sorry for my ignorance! Quote
Ankh Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, vajo said: after a professional polish the blade Thank you for this review! It excites me! Where can I find it? Quote
Ankh Posted December 12, 2020 Author Report Posted December 12, 2020 Its condition looks better right everyone! 2 Quote
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