Marius Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Anybody seen such strange hamon? I have never seen anything like that... http://cgi.ebay.com/Japanese-sword-beau ... 240%3A1318 Quote
pcfarrar Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 It's a typical Yoshimichi Sudare ba hamon. You don't see them on ebay that often but they aren't rare. Quote
Marius Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Posted November 13, 2008 Thanks for the info. I am an ignorant lazy bum, too lazy to Google Yoshimichi. Apologies. May Brian delete this unnecessary post I will probably have to ban myself from posting for a while... Quote
Jacques Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Hi, It is a Yoshimichi from Osaka branch, I'm not sure it is a shodai blade. Quote
Rickisan Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Mariusz - Thanks...I'm glad you posted this question. And thanks to the guys that explained it. I would have also called it fake...just because Ive never seen that type of hamon before. I love this site....get to learn something new everyday! Rick Quote
Brian Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I don't think it is a very well polished sudareba, but sudareba it is. I have some stunning pics of sudareba that I took of a sword here in a shop in Kobe that I will upload when I get back. In person, a well done polish really looks stunning and is a great kantei point. Brian Quote
Jean Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Quote I don't think it is a very well polished sudareba, but sudareba it is In fact I dislike it, I don't know why, it makes me uneasy, too showy, perhaps polishing Quote
DirkO Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 most hamontraits have a certain practical aspect as well. Ashi make it more resilient, and so on. But what would this kind of hamon add in practicallity ? Quote
Jean Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I don't know, probably the same as Kiku had or Fuji yama hada Quote
shan Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Hi All, My first ever Blade found in a Barn in Devon 25 years ago was a Tamba No Kami Yoshimichi and the Sudare-Ba was a lot nicer than the hamon shown on this listing ,Lineage from the mishina school if i remember rightly. I am not sure of the swirls and the 2 dots but i hate this version of this usually intersting hamon. Mine was simply the lines with a swirl twice either side,but it was so much nicer and more expertly done. It was a fashionable variant of the showy hamons like Kiku sui , Hako-Ba ,Sanbonsugi and other striking hamon. Brought back memories none the less. regards Shan Quote
Brian Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Here are 2 nice pics of sudareba that I took of a Yoshimichi in a small Kobe sword shop. Very nice when properly polished. Brian Quote
shan Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Yep, thats what my own looked like,a little tighter on the swirls but nonetheless the same. regards shan Quote
Jean Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Brian, Have you an idea of the price and generation? Quote
Brian Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Jean, Unfortunately I would be lying if I guessed. The shop spoke NO English at all, and I was too busy gazing to take notes. However I did see a LOT of Tanba no kami Yoshimichi on this trip. It was as if every shop had one or 2, with papers to various generations. Brian Quote
Ted Tenold Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Brian said: I don't think it is a very well polished sudareba, but sudareba it is. You're being kind. To continue in the spirit of that kindness, I'd say... "The decisions were unorthodox, and the applications casual". Quote
Brian Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 So what you are saying is that the application of the abrasive materials was considerably below the usual, expected, exemplary standards and therefore the results are lacking in their aesthetic beauty and refinement? yeah..the polish sucks. (top one, not the new pics) Brian Quote
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