shan Posted November 11, 2008 Report Posted November 11, 2008 Hi, Is this of interest or another average piece of late Edo junk? your views would be appreciated. Many thanks Shan Quote
Guest nickn Posted November 16, 2008 Report Posted November 16, 2008 sorry it has not much going for it Quote
Bungo Posted November 16, 2008 Report Posted November 16, 2008 clean it up and it could look like this.......... viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4208 milt Quote
shan Posted November 16, 2008 Author Report Posted November 16, 2008 Hi Milt, Wish i had seen that sooner. Yes its almost identical. Slightly different but a pair for sure. What are the chances of finding another one like it. No way of finding the buyer i guess. regards Shan Quote
Bungo Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 Hi Milt,Wish i had seen that sooner. Yes its almost identical. Slightly different but a pair for sure. What are the chances of finding another one like it. No way of finding the buyer i guess. regards Shan chances of finding the buyer is remote. I could have sniped it except I allowed 5 seconds prior and the traffic to e-bay was too " heavy ", and the snipe was not placed. I guess it's not meant to be........... As you can see from the clean bigger one, it's not bad looking if you clean it up. Most likely a Mito tsuba. milt Quote
shan Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Posted November 17, 2008 How do i clean it without removing all the patina? soap and water? What is the tecnic for cleaning tsuba without damaging? regards Shan Quote
shan Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Posted November 17, 2008 Just a not of caution but i am getting a few Tsuba lately that have been rather poorly photographed but look quite nice,But that have turned out to be hand painted in something supposed to resemble patina.I have had 3 in as many weeks and just wanted to point out that the seller is not happy to replace or refund and says the buyer is "fussy" which of course is true when you are buying a "Genuine edo product" that has "not been messed with" and it turns out to be neither edo or original and has a lovely coat of emulsion on it. You are probably more experianced than i am about these items,but i doub`t i would get "caught out" if i had the item "in hand" so to speak. I guess it is safer to buy one good tsuba from a know seller,than 3 bad tsuba from a seller you thought was a friend (clearly there are no "friends" in Ebay trades and no Honour). regards Shan Quote
Brian Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 I guess it is safer to buy one good tsuba from a known seller,than 3 bad tsuba from a seller you thought was a friend Actually, this is the point without the rest of that sentence and seller references. It is always better to buy one good tsuba than 3 bad tsuba. 3 Tsuba at $150 each should rather be replaced with one good tsuba at $450, and for that matter...one tsuba at $1000 from a good seller is mostly better than 3 average tsuba at $300 each. This assuming you know what you are looking for and are able to identify the good ones. This is just general advice, and not particularly aimed at this tsuba or any particular sellers or buyers. Just good advice to follow. People will always buy those $100 tsuba in the hope of stumbling onto a "sleeper" (don't we hate that word :lol: ) but like swords, you should eventually trade them up. Brian Quote
Bungo Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 How do i clean it without removing all the patina?soap and water? What is the tecnic for cleaning tsuba without damaging? regards Shan THis is for Iron tsuba of lesser value only. 1. use toothbrush with mild soap and start brushing, rinse off the soap 2. use bone, ivory or, as i recently found out, the sharp claw of Ofelia Snow crab and start scrapping. ( avoid soft metal area ) 3. Use MINIMAL choji oil ( or any vegtable cooking oil ) on cotton roll and remove the rust you scrapped/disturbed to check on progress/patina. Repeat step 1 through 3 till you are happy with result. What I just posted may be considered heresy by " purists " who poo poo on any amateur ( ish ) attempt at restoration. There is more than one way that leads to Nirvana. Now if you suspect the iron tsuba could be a Kaneie, Nobuie, Hoan, Yamakichibai ( spelling ? ), Yagyu or similar " high class " item, then DO NOT attempt any restoration until you show/talk to some experts first . Shan, in the case of that tsuba, I don't think anyone will burn you at the stakes for clean up. milt Quote
shan Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks guys, Milt ,I will give it a clean as you sugest. regards Shan Quote
remzy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 Just remember to work very slowly, its abruptness and attempt at "getting it done quickly" that will most likely break the patina! Look at Milt, he is Zen and happy because he stays up late at night to rub his tsuba Quote
shan Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Posted November 18, 2008 I could not possibly comment I like milt he is down to earth and lacks arrogance. But i think you may be right he could be in danger of rubbing hid patination right off. If its within reason its.........reasonable. regards shan Quote
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