Bungo Posted November 7, 2008 Report Posted November 7, 2008 Need help in full translation of this hawk painting. Thanks, Milt Quote
Nobody Posted November 8, 2008 Report Posted November 8, 2008 勅使川原了檉直張圖 勅使川原 (Teshigawara) is a family name. The last 圖 (= 図: zu) may mean a picture. I might be wrong about the 3rd last kanji. I am not sure about the correct reading or meaning for other characters. Quote
Bungo Posted November 9, 2008 Author Report Posted November 9, 2008 thanks, Nobody san, I was thinking the first 6 kanji ( start from left ) were some sort of " title ", then 2 character mei followed by " draw "....... The first kanji ( actually the 7th ) of the mei, I think, read as " Cho " ( as in Soga school painters ). p.s. pic of date ( at the back of the top rod ), circa 1830's but need translation of the zodiac date to get the exact year. milt Quote
Nobody Posted November 9, 2008 Report Posted November 9, 2008 The date may be …… 嘉永四辛亥十二月上旬 (Kaei 4 Kanoto-I 12 gatsu jojun) = the beginning of the 12th month of 1851 I cannot decipher other characters. But the last two kanji could be 由来 (yurai = origin). Quote
k morita Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 Hi, I belive the meaning is: Two (2 hanging scrolles) came from Mr. Sen (or Mr.Senkane ?) in Hikone,in the beginning of the 12th month of 1851. Quote
Bungo Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Posted November 12, 2008 here's another interesting mei that need help........... milt Quote
k morita Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Hi, I belive this Mei is Chinese around Hong Kong. The 1st and 2nd Kanji means Europian name "Edie". morita Quote
Bungo Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Posted November 13, 2008 I don't think so......... they do not( as far as I know ) know the Japanese scroll mounting convention YET. From the book " Japanese art signature " by Self and Hirose....... 1st kanji.....#71, I , Kore ( Date as in Date Masamune ) 2nd kanji...# 1128, Michi, Tada 3 rd kanji.... # 860, Ei , Hide, Hisa, Yoshi, Naka. 4th kanji.....#1569, Ga, Ka, Masa Now i need the " proper " combination ". milt Quote
Nobody Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 One of natural readings might be ………… Ide Eiga (伊迪榮雅) However; I am not sure if "伊迪" could be a Japanese family name. Quote
Bungo Posted November 15, 2008 Author Report Posted November 15, 2008 I know the " meaning" of the first 3 kanji which is the " title/art name " ..... genuine smile dude ? followed by drawn when he was 63 years old. How do you say that in Nihongo ? Milt Quote
k morita Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Hi "真笑翁" "Shinsho-oh" in Nihongo. :D Quote
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