Tatsutoshi & students

[PietroParis]

Hi All,

 

owning only one signed tsuba, I am a bit fixated on its maker. Over the past few months, I stumbled on a few Tatsutoshi tsuba on the internet; those that were on sale were beyond my budget, or, in one case, had rust issues, but I did at least save the pictures. I thought it might be interesting to start one thread aimed at collecting all of them, as well as those of his students, to highlight the common features of this school. As I read in this post, Tatsutoshi's students were his son Tatsunao, plus Tokitoshi and Namitoshi, and indeed there are already several examples of Tatsunao tsuba in the forum, see e.g. this thread. Maybe some NMB members have additional pictures of tsuba by these four makers that they would like to share here?

 

These are elegant examples that I found on the internet, either too expensive for me or not for sale:

 

 

This was cheaper but rusty (with NTK papers):

 

 

This is the one I own (see this thread):

 

 

And this one on the same "Noshi" theme is by Tatsunao:

 

 

I hope this thread not too boring. If it is, just ignore it and accept my apologies!

 

Cheers, Pietro

[Bugyotsuji]

Pietro, I don't like it. 

 

Please continue with the idea and the examples. I love it. 

[Ken-Hawaii]

I really like that third tsuba. Have to chck him out. Thanks!

[vajo]

I like the last one. 

[PietroParis]

More Tatsutoshi from the internet (the mei on the second one looks dodgy to me, but I'm not really qualified to judge):

 

 

And this one from the Toledo Museum of Art is described as "in the style of Tatsutoshi":

 

 

Cheers, Pietro

[PietroParis]

Yet another (unpapered) Tatsutoshi, currently on eBay for a price way above my budget. Besides, it is the one I like the least among those shown so far.

 

[PietroParis]

Just seen this on sale in a Facebook group, quite cheap and erroneously attributed to "Nagatoshi" (or maybe both readings of the mei are accepted?). Alas, someone had already snatched it...

 

[PietroParis]

New crop of "Kofu Ju Tatsutoshi" from a google image search. One, papered TH, is from ebay (see here) :

 

 

 

 

Two plus one, unpapered,  from Aoi Art (see here and here) :

 

[PietroParis]

Going down this rabbit hole, here's a few from Tatsutoshi's student Namitoshi. The first two from Aoi Art (here) and (here) :

 

 

 

Note how the second one resembles the one by Tatsutoshi I own, pictured in my first post above. The ribbons seem a bit bulkier, though.

The third one from a Catawiki sale (here) :

 

 

 

[Surfson]

I like these tsuba.  Is he in the Bushu Ito school?  

[PietroParis]

I think he is included in the Akao school, see this earlier post of mine:

 

 

[PietroParis]

Just seen on Facebook:

[Surfson]

Nice work Pietro, I see why you like him.  Several seem to have a Choshu or Bushu influence.  What school does he come from?  

[PietroParis]

As I wrote above, I've seen this old book where he is included in the Akao school, but I don't know more than that:

 

 

[ROKUJURO]

Pietro, 

Ray is just offering a TATSUTOSHI  

 I hope it is not the same as in post No. 7.

[Ray Singer]

Jean, the tsuba I offered does appear to be the same tsuba shown earlier in this thread. It must have been mistranslated by an earlier owner as Nagatoshi. 

 

Best regards, 

Ray 

[sabiji]

Efu ju Namitoshi:

Namitoshi

[PietroParis]

Tatsunao on eBay, but crazy expensive:

 

[PietroParis]

Same motif and signature, a daisho from Aoi Art:

 

[PietroParis]

There's also this nice mokko gata version, just seen in a Facebook group:

 

[ROKUJURO]

Pietro,

i can't compete against your beautiful signed TSUBA , but I have a modest MUMEI one, probably AKAO school as well.

[PietroParis]

8 minutes ago, ROKUJURO said:

i can't compete against your beautiful signed TSUBA , but I have a modest MUMEI one, probably AKAO school as well.

 

Nice and original design! To state the obvious, the tsuba in this thread (except one) are not mine.

 

 

[PietroParis]

Namitoshi, from a lucky guy on Facebook:

[PietroParis]

Another (rather similar) Namitoshi in this thread:

 

 

[PietroParis]

Yasutoshi appears to be a new entry in the school, see details in this thread. Could anybody please check page 114 of Markus Sesko’s “Genealogies” and let me know how he was related to Tatsutoshi?

 

[MauroP]

[PietroParis]

Thank you so much Mauro, this is vital information for the Tatsutoshi thread!!!

[PietroParis]

2 hours ago, MauroP said:

 

Do I understand correctly that Tatsutoshi & students should be referred to as “Ito/Ido School”?

[PietroParis]

On 11/2/2020 at 2:41 AM, Surfson said:

I like these tsuba.  Is he in the Bushu Ito school?  

 

Back then I had answered that Tatsutoshi belonged to the Akao school, and indeed in the useful genealogy posted by Mauro (from Markus Sesko's book) he is six generations down from the Akao founder.

 

However, he does appear to be also listed as "founder of the Ito school" .

[TomMcRei]

One of my most recent acquisition by Namitoshi