FletchSan Posted June 2, 2020 Report Posted June 2, 2020 A request for information from our armour enthusiasts! I have been updating the descriptions of my photographs and would like more detail on the armour worn in this photograph. Also - I'm interested in what appears to be a Mino "straw coat" - or could this be for some kind of camoflauge worn by this kyūdōka ? Maybe both I have also attached a ukiyo-e print of a samurai wearing one. thanks! Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 2, 2020 Report Posted June 2, 2020 https://www.historyoffighting.com/the-blog/musashi-goro-sadayo https://www.fujiarts.com/cgi-bin/item.pl?item=786409 The Mino was primarily to keep off the rain, but it would have had secondary beneficial functions over armour as you suggest, serving both as camouflage, and also to dampen the noise of clinking armour. I like the way he is using his Jingasa as a a shield against the enemy bowmen. (Your first Felice/Felix Beato(?) shot looks like one of those posed shots where the photographer has assembled whatever they could find in the old castle storehouse!) Quote
FletchSan Posted June 2, 2020 Author Report Posted June 2, 2020 Thanks Piers - love the print also. The photograph is 1870s though not sure of the photographer for this one, I don't believe it's a Beato. I was thinking the same thing re: the armour as the mino may have just been another prop in the costume chest of one of the many Yokohama Studios at the time. However, the print made me wonder whether it was actually more commonly worn by Samurai for purposes other than to keep off the rain Quote
Ganko Posted June 2, 2020 Report Posted June 2, 2020 Appears to be a Korean or Mongol bow, not a Yumi. 1 Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted June 2, 2020 Report Posted June 2, 2020 Good Evening everyone, The Getty Museum catalogues this as a hand coloured albumen silver print by Kusakabe Kimbei c. 1870 - 1890. 1 Quote
Anthony de Vos Posted June 6, 2020 Report Posted June 6, 2020 Hi! Could be a Japanese Hankyu bow, but it’s hard to see from the picture If it is asymetric. AdV 2 Quote
DoTanuki yokai Posted June 12, 2020 Report Posted June 12, 2020 Appears to be a Korean or Mongol bow, not a Yumi. It dosnt look like a Korean or Mongol bow. And i think the recurve of the tip makes it more look like an arts object then an actuall bow i know. In Japanese history there was also other bows then the Yumi. The Yumi is the traditionall bow that established as kyudo tool and the other designs vanished ?. I think also the Ainu had sinew backed horn bows like most other asian culture and the Japanese had them too. Quote
FletchSan Posted June 13, 2020 Author Report Posted June 13, 2020 Thanks everyone! Malcolm - I didn't know it was a kusakabe, can you send me the reference from the Getty catalogue? Quote
Laurent in France Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 This bow on the first photo is I think a Kago hankyo also called a rimankyu or kago hankyu because kyu means arc) It was create originally by Rimani Kayashi in Kii province à Daimyo who lived in early edo. A Kago hankyu size is 60 cm about. This bow is generally made in bones, baleen or bufalo and not in wood like the tall yumi (2,20m) This shorter bow is used by samurai traveling in palanquin to protect, self-défense against robber or to not be killed.. It's why is shorter.. I join a photo of mine.. . Laurent 3 Quote
Bazza Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 Laurent, Very interesting, thanks. I'm guessing it is not a re-curve bow like the bigger yumi?? BaZZa. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 Here's a link to a discussion of half bows etc. https://twitter.com/mudukashiina002/status/1253166866886877184 There were several types of small bows and at least two were used for indoors entertainment. Yo-kyu was one. Quote
Laurent in France Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 I made studies about kyudo its a really interesting subject and art. Very detailed and complete art. . I add a photo of the kago hankyu with yumi you can watch the sizes.. Different sizes, shapes and different materials. Interesting differences Don t you think ? . Laurent 2 Quote
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