Dave R Posted May 7, 2020 Report Posted May 7, 2020 An interesting sword. Blue/green Ito, which is not all that common and something I like to see. The copper reinforcing bands are different,, but for the leather tab I would actually question if it had ever had a leather cover. Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted May 7, 2020 Author Report Posted May 7, 2020 I think the leather tab is also probably torn and may have had a leather cover like shown above. Quote
Bruno Posted May 8, 2020 Report Posted May 8, 2020 Not in my possession but a good example I think. Shin gunto wakizashi from Wrldtrvler0203. http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/Japanese-militaria/help-shin-gunto-showato-please-729538/ Interesting. I'd like to get one someday. Those original WW2 wakizashi are pretty scarce. Quote
IJASWORDS Posted May 9, 2020 Report Posted May 9, 2020 Close ups of a couple of short gunto with different securing straps. 4 Quote
matthewbrice Posted May 15, 2020 Report Posted May 15, 2020 If someone is looking for their first (or second) short gunto, I decided to switch my short gunto from a fixed price listing to an auction. The auction ends Sunday. Here is the link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/114216153943 --Matthew Brice St. Croix Blades 1 Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted May 29, 2020 Author Report Posted May 29, 2020 Added the sword Matthew had to my collection. I'm very happy with it. Maybe in a year something even shorter will pop up. 3 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 Watching a documentary on the attack on Darwin in 1942. Saw a Zero pilot getting in his cockpit on a carrier. Definitely a full size gunto he is carrying. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 Watching a documentary on the attack on Darwin in 1942. Saw a Zero pilot getting in his cockpit on a carrier. Definitely a full size gunto he is carrying. Good catch there, Neil! Looks like an army tsuba. I just realized that I have no idea if their pilots were army or navy, or did they have both like us? 1 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 The airforce was either a wing of the Army or a Naval wing. 1 Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted June 3, 2020 Author Report Posted June 3, 2020 Found another cool one on buyee. https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/e437981193 As for the airforce, I belive both navy and army had their own. It is interesting though that there would be an army pilot on a navy Air craft carrier as from what I have read the two branches did not work together. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 They had both, Naval units operated from the ground extensively as well. 2 Quote
Dave R Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 I could be wrong, but I have no memory of ever having seen a Kai Gunto carried by any pilot, or Naval Landing personnel either, in any of my photo's. Quote
Dave R Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 I see plenty of Kyu Gunto with the NLF, and the oddest selection of swords which look neither one thing or the other in the famous surrender photo, but I have no memory of radiate tsuba and very rarely double haikan.... This could easily be a result of research bias on my part though. Happy to be shown an example though of a Kai Gunto worn by the above. Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted June 3, 2020 Author Report Posted June 3, 2020 I will keep an eye out when going through photographs for sale and post them here, unless a sperate thread would be better haha. 1 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 This guy is either 9 foot tall, or he has a short gunto. 1 Quote
Dave R Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 This guy is either 9 foot tall, or he has a short gunto. NCO, possibly Shanghai. I see a lot of short "Gunto" usually wakizashi in improvised militarised mounts both in pic's and on dealers tables. Too many to share in fact. This full size one I find interesting, because it is carried the way the one is in the photo above. Converted bayonet frog or purpose made.These photo's were posted by Geoff Ward some time back but I am not finding the original thread to link to, but here they are anyway. 2 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted June 3, 2020 Report Posted June 3, 2020 Found another cool one on buyee. i-img600x450-1590816796v5x328504200.jpg i-img450x600-1590816796fehyoy504200.jpg https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/e437981193. This one is quite interesting. Whoever made it used a kabutogane piece for a sayajiri. It makes me wonder if the souvenir daggers we have been discussing are attempting to copy something like this! comparison: Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted June 6, 2020 Report Posted June 6, 2020 Got one to add from Karen's post, here: http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/32301-please-help-identify-unmarked-short-sword/?p=333592 An 18" waki kyugunto! Sakura ground off, likely as part of a sale to a non-military person. Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Posted June 8, 2020 Something I wish I had jumped on a little bit more aggressively. I can't remember the final hammer price for this one buy it is beautiful. 2 Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Posted June 21, 2020 This is a cool short one. 40cm I think https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/b477753250 Quote
Ontario_Archaeology Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Posted March 30, 2021 I thought I would bring back this thread, with this interesting gunto. It is absolutely beautiful! I assume it is going to be quite expensive, even if I could bid on it. https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/v789809687 1 Quote
vajo Posted March 30, 2021 Report Posted March 30, 2021 WOW chokuto. Yasukunito treasure sword for prince kusakabe. But! And this bothers me. It has no Hozon and that in Japan. For me it looks nice, but i think its pure gimei..... Quote
Brian Posted March 30, 2021 Report Posted March 30, 2021 I doubt it's gimei. That it simply too much work for it to be gimei. First chokuto Gunto I've seen. It's impressive. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted March 30, 2021 Report Posted March 30, 2021 The tsuba/seppa are made for a leather cover. No chuso. Wonder what became of that? Quote
Ian B3HR2UH Posted March 30, 2021 Report Posted March 30, 2021 It looks very suspicious to me . Look at the almost new saya lining, binding and paint on the saya. On the other hand the fittings show age and as Bruce points out the seppa and tsuba come from a sword that had a retention strap .I would bet the woodwork underneath the fuchi is new as well. All put together I think, Ian Brooks 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 30, 2021 Report Posted March 30, 2021 Have to agree with Ian, well done but not original. The Seppa, Menuki, Tsuba are all suspicious compared to the condition of the rest. Quote
IJASWORDS Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 Its a totally made up modern piece of rubbish, using old cut down fittings. If you look the KUCHIGANE has a slot for a locking clip, where as the other fittings are off a koshirae with leather securing strap. 2 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, BANGBANGSAN said: 昭和六十年 would be 1985 Bingo! Good catch on the date. Who ever did this rebuild did a pretty decent job from mixed parts. Quote
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