Spartancrest Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Oh the humanity! What were they thinking? 3 Quote
Tanto54 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Arrrghhhh!!! That hurts. Here's an old thread of many repurposed tsuba, etc. http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/21022-tsuba-oddities/?hl=repurposed&do=findComment&comment=214120 2 Quote
Bazza Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Where's an AAAAAAGH!! button when you need one!! BaZZa. 3 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 14, 2020 Author Report Posted April 14, 2020 These are a little less stressful. 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Last year I was given in thanks for services rendered a tanto tsuba which had been made into a loop/bolo tie with the fittings superglued in place. I tried to look appreciative, but my face probably twitched a little. 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 14, 2020 Author Report Posted April 14, 2020 Just a thought but I wonder if the clock movement is at least Japanese? Or East German? Quote
vajo Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Looks like a miniature comtoise I like that watch.. Arbez Remi? Maybe our french members could find out more. 2 Quote
rkg Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Bolo tie - actually works pretty well Best, rkg (Richard George) 2 Quote
b.hennick Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 At a show 2. Years ago I saw a gold watch case turned into a tsuba. 1 Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Hmm, no damage to that bolo tie tsuba. Legit? Quote
raynor Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 I have both a couple antique tsuba and a 100+ year old pocket watch that still ticks.. time to hit the tool shed, I feel inspired what can go wrong? 2 Quote
lonely panet Posted April 14, 2020 Report Posted April 14, 2020 Bolo tie - actually works pretty well bolo_for_fb.jpg Best, rkg (Richard George) Thats no way to treat ko kinko Richard Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 15, 2020 Author Report Posted April 15, 2020 Barry Hennick & others. That gold pocket watch case - was it the one formerly from the Behrens collection? Here is a page from my 'Early Articles for Tsuba Study' book. Guess its fair if we wreck theirs they can wreck ours! Quote
b.hennick Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 Thanks, it was at the Chicago or Tampa show or both... 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 Come to think of it, I bought a Tanto tsuba which had been turned into a Mekugi-nuki. The triangle contained an iron filling with spike/prod. It was attached to a Victorian or Meiji watch fob chain. Eventually I sold it back to the person I bought it from, against a Netsuke. Quote
Guest Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 Surely the only legit way to repurpose a tsuba is as an eyepatch............................ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BISqmvdXc 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 "Yet, shortly afterwards there occurred an uprising at Shimabara in Amakusa"... it says at the end! 1 Quote
Surfson Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 Better to be recycled than ignored or destroyed! I was given a tsuba bolo from a craftsman in Japan who had inadvertently tossed out the original Shirasaya and habaki that was on a sword I sent for restoration. I also have a pin set of pins that were made in early Meiji. Most are first class Edo or Meiji work that was either repurposed for or made specifically for export. I shared some photos of some of them on NMB many moons ago. Quote
Surfson Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 I was able to find the previous chain. Funny, but I have better success finding old NMB posts in google, if I use good search term. Not shown in the photos are that many of them have mounting pins on the back. http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/23804-single-edo-and-meiji-menuki-mounted-on-pins/ Quote
rkg Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 This seller has several er, non-invasive tsuba clocks up on fleabay at the moment:https://www.ebay.com/sch/samuraimuseum888/m.html?item=402223800430&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Here's an image lifted from one of the auctions for posterity (I don't own the image/copyright - it is being presented for educational/criticism uses only): Best, rkg (Richard George) Quote
b.hennick Posted April 15, 2020 Report Posted April 15, 2020 He had two others for sale. "The first and only" he writes three times. 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Posted April 16, 2020 I noticed these some "time" back ! I like the 'Kabutoshi ' but it looks pretty modern. https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-one-and-only-antique-Tsuba-Clock-in-the-world-with-registered-utility-model/402223763540?hash=item5da6679054:g:hGQAAOSwIL9elToI My mind is playing up is 'Kabutoshi ' the correct term ? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 Dale, are you thinking of Katchushi? Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Posted April 16, 2020 Piers, no there is a group of tsuba designs mainly miochin that have riveted plates in imitation of the rivet pattern on helmets (kabuto) they apparently were often done to show off the smiths skill like an advert for helmet makers. I had a reference for them but is lost in the clutter. I will keep searching, maybe this is a different universe to the one I was living in a few months ago! Quote
Spartancrest Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Posted April 16, 2020 Barry Hennick This is off thread a little but - There are an awful lot of sellers who proclaim their pieces are, 'unique' - 'only one of its kind' - 'original'. Even way back in 1884 George Audsley said "Although we have, in the course of our studies, examined thousands of guards, we do not remember ever to have seen two exactly alike." - he should have got out more! One example in his own collection may look very familiar to many NMB Members. Back on thread. Here is one you can't hold a candle to! This one is mine - not very well made at first sight, but when you consider it is only 14mm wide, shakudo within a fukurin its not so bad. Probably part of a tobacco pouch clasp. I am considering having it mounted as a type of signet ring. You will note it shows the ura side - the omote is covered by back fiitings, that's assuming it is decorated at all on that side. 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Two bolo loop ties. One fixed with bond of some kind, the other larger and heavier, with a clasp and a small nut. 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted February 20, 2022 Author Report Posted February 20, 2022 I love the second guard- I suppose it is possible to dismount it from the clasp? 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Yes, it does look possible though I haven’t tried it yet, Dale. You can see the Fuchi in this side view, and the silver backplate. 2 Quote
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