ww2 captured swords need help identifying

[hermanwolf jesse r]

acquired these swords one signed ohara sanemori one not signed both 21 inches long

[16k]

Can’t tell you much without pictures!

[hermanwolf jesse r]

[hermanwolf jesse r]

[hermanwolf jesse r]

[hermanwolf jesse r]

the story is the man that shipped these home was on a ship of confiscated swords that were dumped in the ocean

[hermanwolf jesse r]

the signed sword has kitea ware if that helps im sorry for my ignorance i am new to Japanese sword terminology all i can say is there is something about this sword that excites me i love it wondering if i would be wasting my money to have it polished thank you

[hermanwolf jesse r]

[dwmc]

Your Ohara Sanemori could be a excellent sword indeed. Those more expert will hopefully respond!

 

Dave M.

[hermanwolf jesse r]

thank you for the reply

[Ken-Hawaii]

Kitae ware: http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/flaws.html

[hermanwolf jesse r]

any idea of age

[hermanwolf jesse r]

i apologize my name is jesse rigby j.rigby

[ROKUJURO]

Jesse,

you can sign all posts in your profile (Jesse R. would be your signature).

Your photos are horrible. Try to understand how they should be to make an assessment posssible for us. Take photos always tip up; if they are blurred or not well focused, they don't help.

The last photos seem to show a MINO blade with SANBONSUGI HAMON.

Age is not so important. A blade from 1850 might be much better (and have a higher value) than an inferior one from 1550. Condition is important, so never touch a blade with your bare hands or fingers! 

[Ray Singer]

Herman, Ohara Sanemori was a Heian period smith. This is a much later sword, so it is safe to assume that the signature is not authentic (it is gimei).

 

http://www.sho-shin.com/sanin4.htm

[SAS]

In the interest of preservation, a polisher should be consulted on the signed sword to deal with the extensive corrosion....the photos make it look like a bunch of incrusted cement!

[hermanwolf jesse r]

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[Ken-Hawaii]

Jesse, please click on your profile, & add your first name & initial as your signature. This is REQUIRED on NMB, & will show up in the same position on every post.

 

You have a lot of active rust on the nakago, which is a very bad thing. You need to find a piece of ivory (broken piano key, antler, etc.) & gently scrape off all of the red crud. The black is supposed to be there.

 

For photos, take a look at http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/31021-massive-and-powerful-shinshinto-toshitsugu-wakizashi/ This should give you an idea of how a blade should be shot. An important photo is the one of the completely bare blade, as this shows the sugata, or shape, that determines the jidai (age). Hard to help you without good photos.

[SAS]

And a small amount of oil once the red rust is gone.....time to oil that nakago

[hermanwolf jesse r]

thank you i will attempt that this evening

[waljamada]

Ken,

 

I have a sword with this tang: https://ibb.co/P61gGML

 

Should I also scrape all that off with a deer antler?

[Stephen]

You can tap with wood spoon for any flake rust yes then rub with what you have. A oily rag well help too keep changing fold until red rust stop coloring rag.

[Ken-Hawaii]

Adam, Stephen's method will work for the big rust, & an antler will help to get rid of the smaller stuff. Looks like you have some work cut out for you! Looks like that poor nakago was soaked in slt water.