I thought I would share an Interesting Manchurian naval sword

[brannow]

Hi All,

 

I thought I would share this Manchurian naval sword I picked up a few weeks ago.  Its the only one Ive ever seen so its got to be pretty rare.  Anyone else ever seen one before?

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

[Bruce Pennington]

That is the most bizzare thing I have ever seen! What's on the nakago?

[Stephen]

Ive seen one or two at the time we thought one of those Indonesian copies

As Bruce please show nakago.

[brannow]

The blade is a signed Masatsuna and is an oil tempered blade.  Sorry here are pics of the tsuba.

[brannow]

ill have to take pics of the nakago and post them later tonight.   Not a copy though.

[Smee78]

Interesting sword, alot of detail on the pieces.

[IJASWORDS]

Very nice, very uncommon. 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Never knew these existed, how remarkable.

[Jareth]

First for me! Love the anchor on drag tip! Interesting details overall!

[Austus]

Great photos of a fascinating sword.  More, please.

 

But what about the Shin Gunto??   That looks very interesting, too!

[brannow]

Sorry ill post more photos tomorrow.

[Death-Ace]

Very, very cool!

[Stegel]

Wow, very nice !!

[16k]

That’s a nice sword. I love the koshirae. First time I see one like that!

[vajo]

Nice sword indeen and very interesting.

 

Please dont lay you swords on that stone. Use pillows to lay it down.

[Stephen]

I trust Bill completely  when it comes to the sword. as far as the koshi goes it looks like the ones ive seen on massive sayas with a wheel on the drag. They were made in the islands not Japan, i must be the only one seeing the Emperor with no clothes!

[BANGBANGSAN]

Very special!Thanks for sharing!

[Ed]

Look forward to seeing the nakago.

[Bruce Pennington]

I saved the pics of that baby for my files!

[brannow]

Here are pics of the nakago.

 

Bill

[Bruce Pennington]

正恒 (Masatsune) (real name) 天池 鈴一郎

 

So, seems to have been made by the Japanese for the Manchurian navy!

 

I know so little about that side of the war. I know there were actual Japanese personnel working with the collaborative forces, and they would have had their own gunto. I wonder if this is an example of that? Or were the Japanese making gunto for certain echelons of leadership on the Chinese side? Much of what we see are the swords made BY the collaborators, and the quality is obvious.

[brannow]

Because of how the mounts are configured, it was probably a Manchurian officer attached to the Japanese navy.

 

[Stegel]

Not meaning to de-rail this wonderful thread of Bill's, i thought this may/may not be related in some way.

 

A Very Last- Last Ditch Navy sword, and as with Bill's, i've never seen another.

I'm of the impression that these along with the Army versions may have all been Manchu constructions.

All have lower grade Blades that are made by smiths and not "machine" made as such.

Some are signed, others are not signed.

 

This, along with the photo's are from a collection belonging to "Trenchwarfare" from the GunBoards Forum.

 

 

 

[Kiipu]

On 1/12/2020 at 6:14 PM, Stegel said:

This, along with the photo's are from a collection belonging to "Trenchwarfare" from the GunBoards Forum.

 

Stumbled upon these GBF pictures today and below is the link to them.

Need help with a Japanese sword found in a pawn shop, Post #18