Fake - Real ?

[YOJIMBO]

from time to time I come across these tsubas at different prices.

some mass production or what is it?

[Kurikata]

Chinese fakes

[leo]

Hi, Simon,

these are Kinko-school tsuba from late Edo and no fake at all!

 

Tis style is very decorative and they are normally high priced. If you see one cheap, please let me know!

 

Best, Martin

[vajo]

Looks not fake for me on the first view. The nanako is very fine but on the right corner there is no nanako visible.

Did you have bigger pictures?

[YOJIMBO]

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u322506025

 

sold for 90 000 JPY

 

they appear about once a month

[Kurikata]

Please refer to:https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22248/lot/1237/?category=list

[YOJIMBO]

why are there so many? I really see them quite often

 

next: https://www.cmmilitaryantiques.com/products.php?rid=109

 

if those on yahoo were a treasure, it would sell for so little ???

[vajo]

Puhh, you catch me. They look all gilded.

[rkg]

I grimace every time I see somebody pay a stupid price for one of these - there are bunch of them out there, some signed, some not, some with good guilding/silvering, some not so much, some with the casting seams visible, some better finished, etc.  Its my understanding that these are early for mass produced pieces, but.... Its been suggested to me that I should think of them as giclees :-)

 

Best,

rkg

(Richard George)

[leo]

I think, later, from Keijo well into the Meiji Period they made a lot of decorative Daisho for export and used these tsuba. I had one long ago, fitted with a pair of papered Jumyo blades.

 

I try to include some old pictures but they are not very good.

 

Regards

[leo]

Found the daisho picture:

[Ken-Hawaii]

Largely decoration, rather than any real collector value (says the guy who collects Heianjo).

[roger dundas]

Well, for mine these things are way over the top and verging on hideous. Not at all refined but as I am learning,  my judgement isn't so hot.

Roger

[roger dundas]

Further, I feel guilty about venturing into the comments section being quite aware of my innocence/ignorance and will mostly desist but just felt a need to comment on the above.

Roger