Who can cut Bohi Outside Japan?

[TheGermanBastard]

...and is recommended?

[vajo]

On a old sword Luis? 

[Ken-Hawaii]

That's an interesting question, Luis. Care to elaborate?

[jeremy]

I'd be interested to know as well. I want to get a bo hi cut in my shinsakuto. I've emailed a few people but no one has ever gotten back to me.

Jeremy

[TheGermanBastard]

Not a that old sword. Blade would benefit from it.

 

I am familiar with excellen craftman out of Japan for all kind of work but none for Bohi cutting. I do not want to send the blade to Japan.

[Ray Singer]

I've never seen the cutting of a full set of bo-hi handled competently outside of Japan. And some I've seen done recently in Japan were poorly executed and devalued the blade, perhaps more than if the kitae-ware were left in the shinogi-ji rather than being cut away.

[TheGermanBastard]

I've never seen the cutting of a full set of bo-hi handled competently outside of Japan. And some I've seen done recently in Japan were poorly executed and devalued the blade, perhaps more than if the kitae-ware were left in the shinogi-ji rather than being cut away.

 

Oh, that is a bummer. Thank you Ray for letting me know. I was hoping there would be a recommended craftman in the USA or Europe.

[jeremy]

I tried asking to send my sword to Japan via usagiya sword shop but they're too busy to take on my project. Plus the hassles of sending a sword into Japan

[Austus]

Please forgive the question; but why would anybody want to do that? There was a recent discussion about the weight loss versus the possible strength gain/loss involved in the original design; but if you're not gonna be fighting with it, why change the identity and history?

[ChrisW]

Possibly improve aesthetics by remove kitae-ware and other flaws/blemishes in that region.

[SAS]

How about some photos?

[Gakusee]

There is no gain in strength from cutting bohi. Full stop. All that happens is the excision lightens the weight, improves ductility/flexibility for only some types of strike/attack. But weakens the blade for lateral strikes on said blade.

 

It is done mostly nowadays to remove ware or ugly horimono.

 

Luis if the blade really deserves it (valuable/important/precious/whatever adjective in there) you will spend the few hundred dollars to send it to Japan.

 

Sounds like it is borderline?

[TheGermanBastard]

Luis if the blade really deserves it (valuable/important/precious/whatever adjective in there) you will spend the few hundred dollars to send it to Japan.

 

Sounds like it is borderline?

 

No.

[Blazeaglory]

The title of this thread is like nails on a chalk board haha

[TheGermanBastard]

A sword smith by the name of Pavel Bolf has been brought to my attention.  He offers cutting of Bohi.

 

Does anybody have personal expirience with him or has seen his work in person?

 

Also does anybody know the approximate cost for cutting Bohi on a Daito in Japan?

[SAS]

I have seen a lot of Pavel Bolf's work online, not in person....his work seems pretty decent generally; I don't know regarding bohi.

[Brian]

I'd be concerned about core steel.
I'm guessing on swords intended for hi, the smith would take into account the thickness of the outer steel and where the core steel is placed. Maybe not every time. But if you take any old sword and hack a groove into it, aren't you almost guaranteed to go through the outer steel and show some ugly shingane?
Just curious.

[Ray Singer]

The answer is yes, these ato-bori bo-hi can expose hideous kitae-ware and long running fukure sometimes.

[SAS]

JP Hrisoulas in Florida is a master blade smith who works in the Japanese tradition (for a westerner) and does bohi on his own blades; i don't know if he would take on outside work, but you could ask.

[Greg F]

Luis its probably a good idea to show pics of the blades your planning on doing this with to see what the experts have to say. What period was the sword/s made? Is it to remove flaws?

 

Greg