Juyo 2019

[Ray Singer]

So, 2019 Juyo results are coming out now. It is my understanding that this was an especially challenging year to submit. Did anyone have a passing result they would like to share? I just missed the window on two of my swords and did not put anything through in this year's shinsa. Fingers crossed that someone here has had, or if about to receive, some good news.

 

Best regards,

Ray

 

[mywei]

Hi Ray, I just got the good news yesterday that my blade passed! It's a first for me so am quite chuffed!

[Ray Singer]

Fantastic, congratulations! You are the first pass I've heard from yet. Would love to hear details when you are ready, either here or my PM if you like to share further. Again, very happy to hear the good news.

[mywei]

Thanks Ray! I took a punt on a healthy Katayama Ichimonji naginata naoshi katana of good length but a bit rusty. All it needed was a good polish!

[Ken-Hawaii]

Congrats, Matt! And thanks for providing all this useful information, Ray.

[raiden]

Got 3 , not bad!

[PNSSHOGUN]

Good eye, Mike!

[BIG]

Congrats, cherio !

 

Best

[Darcy]

One for 3 here. 
 

[Brian]

Curious if they give a reason for a fail with Juyo?
Not representative enough for the smith...or not among his best works or condition or.........?
 

[Darcy]

Once in a while they seem to have a reset session where it becomes very difficult and then over time standards relax a bit. This is just my feeling but this seems to have been this time as I am hearing from some Japanese dealers that they got 0 through entirely, I heard lists of failures and the makers involved kind of shocked me that they would not pass. And items of good quality. 

In my case I submitted two that had past reference Juyos and both rare and both better than the past references and one of these went through but the other didn't. So it says to me that the standards in this shinsa are higher than in that shinsa.

Failure is not necessarily related to the item being wrong or bad. They don't give reasons but I gather you might be able to get some explanation of the thought process if you bring it in. In every session there are 3 groups, the first of which is automatic pass, the second of which is this shouldn't have been submitted, then the work is done in the third group which are real candidates. Now for whatever reason, sometimes competition between blades submitted by the same smith, sometimes because of a desire to reduce the number of blades accepted (my assertation) these true candidate blades can be accepted or denied in the majority. This is what causes a high or low volume session.

Those blades may all be tried again and may pass the next time around.

My feeling then from what I am hearing is that this is just going to be a low item count session. My one that passed was grouped with submissions of 8 other people and it is the only one that passed in that group.

And the simple answer to the question: you just get a notice that it was not accepted or that it was. Not accepted does not mean never, it means try again.

[Tom Darling]

What are the current fee's and if passed juyo shinsa?  Peace.

 

 

Tom D.

[Stephen]

Old date so not currently

http://www.bushidojapaneseswords.com/nbthk-shinsa-submission.html

[Pete Klein]

https://www.touken.or.jp/english/aboutus.html

 

NBTHK site current.  Click, 'Shinsa Fee List'.

[cwh3]

Can anyone tell me if there will be a Shinza team at one of the US sword shows in 2020? 
I have a sword or two to submit for Hozon. 
Thank you, Charlie 

[Katsujinken]

Can anyone tell me if there will be a Shinza team at one of the US sword shows in 2020?

I have a sword or two to submit for Hozon.

Thank you, Charlie

NBTHK shinsa only takes place in Japan.

[charlie1]

The NTHK is coming to San Fran in 2020.

[cwh3]

Hello Charlie1, 

Thank you for the update, NTHK is coming to San Fran in 2020. Looks like I will be making plans to attend the show and Shinza.

Thank you again, Charlie

[Wim V]

Fresh off the press   :  the results of the 65th Juyo shinsa are published on the NBTHK website:

 

https://www.touken.or.jp/Portals/0/pdf/shinsa/第65回重要刀剣等新指定品発表_1128.pdf

 

Apparently 138 items were selected out of 1341 submissions:

 

Token:  101 passed (out of 1003 submitted)

Toso:  8 passed (out of 45 submitted)

Tosogu:  29 passed (out of 293 submitted)

 

[b.hennick]

10% pass rate! 

[Jussi Ekholm]

Thanks for posting the link Wim. Interesting results and items passed this time too. I just wish I could study all of them.

[Ray Singer]

When I get time throughout the day I will work on translations of the results. I can pretty much guarantee that the translation will contain mistakes, so please be forgiving, but this will help in reviewing this year's results.

Koto

• Katana
  • Mumei: Awataguchi Kunitoshi
  • Nagasa: 67.0cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Katana
  • Shumei: Sahei (no) jo Kuniyoshi (Awataguchi)
  • Nagasa: 74.7cm
  • Sori: 1.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Awataguchi
  • Nagasa: 70.0cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Awataguchi
  • Nagasa: 63.8cm
  • Sori: 2.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Awataguchi
  • Nagasa: 68.7cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Tachi
  • Mumei: Ayanokoji
  • Nagasa:76.9cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Niji Kunitoshi
  • Nagasa: 68.9cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Tanto
  • Mei: Rai Kunitoshi
  • Nagasa:24.7cm
  • Sori: uchizori
• Katana
  • Kinzoganmei: Rai Kunimitsu - Kōson (Kao)
  • Nagasa: 75.3cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 74.8cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 70.6cm
  • Sori: 1.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 70.4cm
  • Sori: 2.3cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 70.0cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 66.3cm
  • Sori: 1.5cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 72.0cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Tanto
  • Mei: Rai Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 27.3cm
  • Sori: Minimal/None
• Katana
  • Mumei: Nakajima Rai
  • Nagasa: 74.4cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Nakajima Rai
  • Nagasa: 61.9cm
  • Sori: 1.2cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Rai Kunizane
  • Nagasa: 39.2cm
  • Sori: 0.8cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Rai Kuniyasu
  • Nagasa: 69.0cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Hasebe Kunishige
  • Nagasa: 54.6cm
  • Sori: 1.3cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Hasebe Kunishige
  • Nagasa: 38.2cm
  • Sori: 0.6cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mumei: Nobukuni (shodai)
  • Nagasa: 38.0cm
  • Sori: 1.0cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Yoshimitsu (den Senjuin)
  • Nagasa: 80.4cm
  • Sori: 3.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Senjuin
  • Nagasa: 73.2cm
  • Sori: 2.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Senjuin
  • Nagasa: 67.5cm
  • Sori: 1.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Ryumon
  • Nagasa: 69.4cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Tanto
  • Mumei: Taima
  • Nagasa: 29.3cm
  • Sori: uchizori
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Tegai Kanenaga
  • Nagasa: 73.1cm
  • Sori: 2.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Tegai Kanenaga
  • Nagasa: 68.7cm
  • Sori: 1.7cm
• Tanto
  • Mei: Yamato Shikkake ju Norinaga kore o tsukuru - Ryakuō san __ roku gatsu hi - roku ju kyu
  • Nagasa: 21.8cm
  • Sori: uchizori
• Katana
  • Mumei: Shikkake
  • Nagasa: 70.2cm
  • Sori: 2.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Den shikkake
  • Nagasa: 69.5cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Tanto:
  • Mei: Shintogo Kunimitsu
  • Nagasa: 19.0cm
  • Sori: uchizori
• Tanto
  • Shumei: Masamune (meibutsu Ashiya Masamune) Kōjō (Kao) (attached origami) (gold lacquer Aoi-mon aikuchi tanto koshirae)
  • Nagasa: 27.4cm
  • Sori: uchizori
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Sagami junin Hiromitsu - Enbun san nen san gatsu hi
  • Nagasa: 33.7cm
  • Sori: 0.3cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Soshu ju Akihiro - Ōan 2
  • Nagasa: 31.8cm
  • Sori: 0.6cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Soshu ju Akihiro
  • Nagasa: 36.8cm
  • Sori: 0.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Takagi Sadamune
  • Nagasa: 68.8cm
  • Sori: 1.7cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Shizu
  • Nagasa: 71.0cm
  • Sori: 1.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Shizu
  • Nagasa: 69.1cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Shizu
  • Nagasa 70.0cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Naginatanaoshi katana
  • Mumei: Kinju
  • Nagasa: 67.9cm
  • Sori: 2.6cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Hoju (Eitoku jidai)
  • Nagasa: 68.4cm
  • Sori: 2.1cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Kashu Fujiwara Yukimitsu – Bunmei ju shichi nen ni gatsu tsuitachi
  • Nagasa: 71.85cm
  • Sori: 2.6cm
• Katana
  • Kinzoganmei: Saeki Norishige – Kōson (Kao)
  • Nagasa: 68.8cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Norishige
  • Nagasa: 69.2cm
  • Sori: 1.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Norishige
  • Nagasa: 70.3cm
  • Sori: 1.5cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Ko-Bizen Kageyasu
  • Nagasa: 70.2cm
  • Sori: 1.3cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Kunitsuna (Ko-Bizen)
  • Nagasa: 71.2cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Sukehide (Fukuoka Ichimonji)
  • Nagasa: 70.7cm
  • Sori: 1.3cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Yorizane (Fukuoka Ichimonji)
  • Nagasa: 71.2cm
  • Sori: 2.6cm
• Naginatanaoshi wakizashi
  • Mumei: Fukuoka Ichimonji
  • Nagasa: 54.6cm
  • Sori: 0.8cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Ichi (Yoshioka)
  • Nagasa: 79.8cm
  • Sori: 3.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Katayama Ichimonji
  • Nagasa: 71.4cm
  • Sori: 2.2cm
• Naginatanaoshi katana
  • Mumei: Katayama Ichimonji
  • Nagasa: 67.0cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Iwato Ichimonji
  • Nagasa: 70.7cm
  • Sori: 1.2cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Sanemori tsukuru (Hatakeda)
  • Nagasa: 77.0cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Katana
  • Kinzoganmei Hatakeda Sanemori – Kōson (Kao)
  • Nagasa: 71.2cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Unju
  • Nagasa: 71.8cm
  • Sori: 2.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Kanemitsu
  • Nagasa: 71.6cm
  • Sori: 1.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Kanemitsu
  • Nagasa: 66.0cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Tomomitsu
  • Nagasa: 69.0cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Bishu Osafune Masamitsu – Oei roku nen ni gatsu hi
  • Nagasa: 66.0cm
  • Sori: 3.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Chogi
  • Nagasa: 73.8cm
  • Sori: 1.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Chogi
  • Nagasa: 68.9cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Morikage
  • Nagasa: 71.25cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Yoshikage
  • Nagasa: 73.9cm
  • Sori: 2.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Yoshikage En__ roku nen - Kinzoganmei Futatsu do Kiriotoshi Yamano Kanjuro Hisahide (kao) March 27th
  • Nagasa: 70.7cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Ômiya
  • Nagasa: 69.4cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Bi(shu) Osafune Morimitsu – Oei ju kyu nen ni gatsu hi
  • Nagasa: 31.8cm
  • Sori: slight
• Wakizashi
  • Mei: Yasumitsu
  • Nagasa: 44.2cm
  • Sori: 0.6cm
• Katana
  • Mei: Bizen (no) kuni ju Osafune Gorōzaemon no Jō Kiyomitsu – Koji gannen ju ichi gatsu ni ju hachi ka - Tame [ni] Sugimoto Yuki kore [wo] saku
  • Nagasa: 67.1cm
  • Sori: 2.4cm
• Kodachi
  • Mumei: Ko-Aoe
  • Nagasa: 61.1cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Yukikuni (den Bitchu Seno’o)
  • Nagasa: 65.2cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Nobutsugu saku - Aoe (jidai Kamakura)
  • Nagasa: 67.0cm
  • Sori: 2.1cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Aoe
  • Nagasa: 71.1cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Mihara Masaie
  • Nagasa: 70.6cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Mihara Masaie
  • Nagasa: 69.4cm
  • Sori: 1.3cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Hokke (jidai Nanbokucho)
  • Nagasa: 70.1cm
  • Sori: 1.0cm
• Wakizashi
  • Mumei: Sairen
  • Nagasa: 59.5cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Samonji
  • Nagasa: 72.7cm
  • Sori: 1.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: den Samonji -  (Hon'ami Kōon origami) - (black lacquer uchigatana saya) 
  • Nagasa: 66.8cm
  • Sori: 2.0cm
• Tanto
  • Mei: Chikushu ju Kunihiro saku – Shohei ju ni nen ni gatsu kichi jitsu
  • Nagasa: 26.9cm
  • Sori: 0.1cm
• Tanto
  • Mumei: Sa Kunihiro
  • Nagasa: 25.0cm
  • Sori: 0.2cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Sa Yoshisada
  • Nagasa: 69.7cm
  • Sori: 1.6cm
• Naginatanaoshi wakizashi
  • Mumei: Sa Hiroyasu
  • Nagasa: 58.6cm
  • Sori: 1.2cm
• Tachi
  • Mei: Yukihira saku
  • Nagasa: 76.6cm
  • Sori: 2.2cm
• Katana
  • Mei: Taira Shizunori
  • Nagasa: 81.6cm
  • Sori: 2.6cm
• Tachi
  • Mumei: Enju Kunimura
  • Nagasa: 78.6cm
  • Sori: 1.8cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Enju Kunimura
  • Nagasa: 67.9cm
  • Sori: 1.7cm
• Katana
  • Kinzoganmei: Enju Kuniyoshi – Kōson (Kao)
  • Nagasa: 74.5cm
  • Sori: 2.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Enju Kunitoki
  • Nagasa: 74.0cm
  • Sori: 2.4cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Enju Kunitoki
  • Nagasa: 76.2cm
  • Sori: 1.3cm
• Katana
  • Mumei: Enju
  • Nagasa: 69.1cm
  • Sori: 1.5cm
• Tanto
  • Mei: Hishu (Kiku)chi ju Kunifusa – Oei go nen ju gatsu hi
  • Nagasa: 26.0cm
  • Sori: none
• Katana
  • Mumei: Ko-Naminohira
  • Nagasa: 71.3cm
  • Sori: 2.6cm

Shinto

 

    98. Wakizashi

• Mei: Kunihiro
• Nagasa: 40.2cm
• Sori: 0.65cm

    99. Katana

• Mei: Hankei
• Nagasa: 74.4cm
• Sori: 1.4cm

    100. Katana

• Mei: Oite Doshu Sa Yukihide saku – Kaei roku nen aki
• Nagasa: 73.0cm
• Sori: 2.0cm

    101. Katana

• Mei: Hizen (no) kuni ju Fujiwara Tadahiro (nidai)
• Nagasa: 76.4cm
• Sori: 1.6cm

[Ken-Hawaii]

That's a ton of work, Ray - thanks!

[Vermithrax16]

Wow Ray! Thanks!

 

Big Kunimitsu party!

 

I would most like to see the Taima tanto and the 2 Kanenaga swords.

[Ray Singer]

Thank you both. I just did a proofreading pass and made some important corrections. There are still some portions of items 69, 73 and 83 that I still need to address.

 

Best regards,

Ray

[Ray Singer]

Additional updates above, and as far as I can take the translations without further assistance.

 

Tosogu are their own thing, so if anyone would like to take a stab at the tosogu translations please feel free to post the descriptions here.

 

Best regards,

Ray

[mywei]

Nice, Ray.! I think #57 is den Iwato Ichimonji though

[Ray Singer]

Yes, you're absolutely right Matt. Unfortunately the 24-hour period has passed and I cannot edit the post. If any of the admins can make that correction it would be appreciated.

 

57. Katana

• Mumei: den Iwato Ichimonji
• Nagasa: 70.7cm
• Sori: 1.2cm

[Jamie]

Two signed Akihiro

[Tom Darling]

With only one shinshinto Sa yukihide.  I believe that's accurate, if missed any. I recall one 20 odd years ago that was mumei and passed?  Very helpful Ray. Thank you.

 

 

Tom D.