Help Identity Shin Gunto

[Fumei]

Hi friends. I need help to identify this Shin Gunto.
Is this chinese copy or original?

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Seems to be a chinese fake.

[Bruce Pennington]

Vlad,

That is one of the highest quality reproductions (fake) I have seen. I have heard Poland is making these. I wanted to say it's legit, but there are a few too many things that are wrong, or slightly off.

 

I agree with John.

[Brian]

Would easily fool me. Sure it's a repro?

[16k]

Would have been fooled too. I thought it was legit. Very high quality reproduction.

[Mark]

i agree. the issues i see:  handle may have been sand blasted but you usually see some remnant of paint in the recessed parts of the handle, serial numbers are too close together, the scabbard matches the sword but it has the screw on  the Nagoya side yet the stamps for not Nagoya (Suya Kokura), and the Tokyo stamp seems to rounded at the upper part. 

 

may be wrong with some of this as i do not collect NCO

 

I will have to watch for these as they do look good

[Bruce Pennington]

What Mark said, plus:

1. The sandblasted look to the tsuka is usually the first warning. The details on the kabutogane are crafted nicely, but it's like it was sanded down. Common look for fakes.

2. The saya throat opening - the brass inner isn't blended into the steel outer shell. I'll post a pic of a good one if I have it. The openning for the latch is too square.

3. The fakers are getting better at the stacked cannon ball stamp of the Kokura arsenal, but they are still struggling to get the Iijima Shoten contrator stamp right.

4. The inspector stamp on the blade is horrid and looks like it was hot-stamped to the blade.

5. The fakers like this 13xxx serial number range. I haven't done a survey, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are all the same number.

6. The barrel nut at the top of the tsuka isn't right.

 

Like I said, though, a really good replica (term to use if selling as a replica, which happens sometimes).

 

[ROKUJURO]

Not a single picture of the NAKAGO?

[Bruce Pennington]

Not a single picture of the NAKAGO?

Jean,

Most folks don't break Type 95s down. About half the time, when you put them back together, there's a slight wiggle or looseness to the fittings afterwards. And, if legit, there won't be anything there except an occational "W" stamp, or Seki.

[Stephen]

+1

[vajo]

I would never dissamble a NCO sword. Its a good repro sword. But the stamps and the numbers are not. I miss the black ground color on the saya. Is only one single paint.

[Fumei]

Many thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion.

[Shamsy]

This may be of assistance next time.

 

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/19914-fake-type-95-nco-swords/?hl=fake

 

Edit: Because this is a good example and different to some of the swords in the thread, I'll add it to the fake thread.