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Please help with this translation. Also the mei including the dating seems like a higher quality of inscription than the typical Seki strokes. Even though this sword I'm looking at is in a type 3 mount there's a chance it could be a gendaito

 

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If the type 3 mounts are those green? metal scabbard ones, it IS a Showato.
If they are the dark crackle laquered ones with dark ito..then it will be a Gendaito. That rule is pretty much 99% valid.

Anyone know how to explain what I mean there better? I'm tired and not good with words right now.

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No I completely understood what you meant Brian, and the mount is NOT the dark laquered saya with wine colored Tsuka-maki so I was expecting a typical showa/seki stamp. A friend of mine picked this sword up and offered it to me but I wont be in town until next week.. 

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I would add to Brian's description the double release buttons. The gunto with gendaito blades seem to all have the double release button. In line with the phrase "With WWII gunto, never say never, and never say always!" I personally have a star-stamped RJT gentai blade that came in a metal saya, though the paint is dark not light. It has the double release button too.

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  On 10/5/2019 at 1:22 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

I would add to Brian's description the double release buttons. The gunto with gendaito blades seem to all have the double release button. In line with the phrase "With WWII gunto, never say never, and never say always!" I personally have a star-stamped RJT gentai blade that came in a metal saya, though the paint is dark not light. It has the double release button too.

Yes, me too. I have a Nakada Kanehide of Seki RJT blade in the metal saya double-button  mounts with the light cream paint as shown in the showato pic. Kanehide is a very good smith (post-war mukansa). So the message is...though rare to find a gendaito in a brown metal saya Rinji Seishiki mount, it DOES occur. Always check them out at swap-meets etc, you just never know.

 

The signature seems to be SUMI to me. There was a Kanesumi working in Seki from 27 Dec 1940, name SATO Yukihachi or Kohachi or Yukiya...or...other possibilities.

 

Regards,

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