vfox Posted September 28, 2019 Report Posted September 28, 2019 Hello, I brought a dragon themed copper tsuba, sold to me as an Edo piece but I'm having doubts as the dragon seems a bit too perfect. Is it likely for this to have been a machine made modern copy? Regards, Jay Quote
Grey Doffin Posted September 28, 2019 Report Posted September 28, 2019 Hi Jay, I think mid to late Edo and no reason to think it is a cast copy. Grey 1 Quote
raaay Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 A cast modern copy IMHO , but ! Quote
Ford Hallam Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=792HjO4mPaw&list=RD792HjO4mPaw&start_radio=1&t=23 Quote
Grey Doffin Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 Agreed. I should have mentioned that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference, cast or not. This is a very mediocre tsuba; sorry. Jay, you should set your sights higher. Grey Quote
vfox Posted September 29, 2019 Author Report Posted September 29, 2019 That's alright, it was selling pretty cheap so I was thinking why not. To be honest, the average person would find a fanciful design like this more interesting than say a plainly designed but well forged Myochin piece (for example). I don't understand how this could have been made in the Edo period. It seems like too much work to do by hand. Was it poured into a mould or something? Jay Quote
vajo Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 That's alright, it was selling pretty cheap so I was thinking why not. To be honest, the average person would find a fanciful design like this more interesting than say a plainly designed but well forged Myochin piece (for example). I don't understand how this could have been made in the Edo period. It seems like too much work to do by hand. Was it poured into a mould or something? Jay Why buying a fake tsuba? Make no sense if it is cheap or not? 1 Quote
vfox Posted September 29, 2019 Author Report Posted September 29, 2019 Why buying a fake tsuba? Make no sense if it is cheap or not? I don't know for sure if it is a fake, and if its not I'm curious about how they would have made this with the technology from 200 years ago. Edit: actually I realize casting works from the Edo period can be quite detailed, so I take that back. It still makes an interesting comparison with the other pieces I have. Quote
Logan09 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 Why buying a fake tsuba? What exactly makes this a fake? Quote
vajo Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 Logan, really? This thing is so much cast fake it crys it out. 1 Quote
Logan09 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 Yeah, it's obviously cast. What makes it fake? Quote
vajo Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 Logan a copper tsuba is made like this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkhWh19fTG4 (Fords video is eye opening) 1:25 until 2:50 minute Jays tsuba is made like this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq80JjiTFoo this will never be a homogeneously material. Poor quality and not like this what i understand under a Japanese sword guard. Maybe its good enough for another sword from other parts of the world. Quote
Ed Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 Maybe it would be easier to understand if they just wrote POS. 2 Quote
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