Dragon Tsuba - Edo or modern reproduction?

[vfox]

Hello,

 

I brought a dragon themed copper tsuba, sold to me as an Edo piece but I'm having doubts as the dragon seems a bit too perfect.

 

Is it likely for this to have been a machine made modern copy?

 

 

Regards,

Jay

[Grey Doffin]

Hi Jay,

I think mid to late Edo and no reason to think it is a cast copy.

Grey

[raaay]

A cast modern copy IMHO , but !

[Ford Hallam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=792HjO4mPaw&list=RD792HjO4mPaw&start_radio=1&t=23

 

[Grey Doffin]

Agreed.  I should have mentioned that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference, cast or not.  This is a very mediocre tsuba; sorry.  Jay, you should set your sights higher.

Grey

[vfox]

That's alright, it was selling pretty cheap so I was thinking why not. To be honest, the average person would find a fanciful design like this more interesting than say a plainly designed but well forged Myochin piece (for example).

 

I don't understand how this could have been made in the Edo period. It seems like too much work to do by hand. Was it poured into a mould or something?

 

Jay

[vajo]

That's alright, it was selling pretty cheap so I was thinking why not. To be honest, the average person would find a fanciful design like this more interesting than say a plainly designed but well forged Myochin piece (for example).

 

I don't understand how this could have been made in the Edo period. It seems like too much work to do by hand. Was it poured into a mould or something?

 

Jay

 

 

Why buying a fake tsuba? Make no sense if it is cheap or not?

[vfox]

 

Why buying a fake tsuba? Make no sense if it is cheap or not?

I don't know for sure if it is a fake, and if its not I'm curious about how they would have made this with the technology from 200 years ago.

 

Edit: actually I realize casting works from the Edo period can be quite detailed, so I take that back.

 

It still makes an interesting comparison with the other pieces I have.

[Logan09]

 

Why buying a fake tsuba?

What exactly makes this a fake?

[vajo]

Logan, really? 

 

This thing is so much cast fake it crys it out.

 

[Logan09]

Yeah, it's obviously cast. What makes it fake?

[vajo]

Logan a copper tsuba is made like this way.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkhWh19fTG4 (Fords video is eye opening)

 

1:25 until 2:50 minute

 

Jays tsuba is made like this way.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq80JjiTFoo

 

this will never be a homogeneously material. Poor quality and not like this what i understand under a Japanese sword guard.

Maybe its good enough for another sword from other parts of the world.

[Ed]

Maybe it would be easier to understand if they just wrote POS.