translation help!

[trygve]

Hello!

 

A while back i bought a rusty katana by a smith called Kiyotsuna.

The blade is under restoration and I am looking for reference on this school/smith. I found this for sale on a Japanese website and wonder if someone who know Japanese could help translate. I have tried web translator sites, but they translate it into babble.

 

http://tsuruginoya.com/mn1_3/f00007.html

 

paragraph to translate:

 

筑後久留米ä½æ¸…綱

 

嘉永四年二月日

 

形状 ：

 

 

 

é› ï¼š

 

刃文 ：

 

 

 

å¸½å­ ï¼š

 

茎 ：

鎬造ã€åºµæ£Ÿã€èº«å¹…・é‡ã­å°‹å¸¸ã«ã—ã¦ã€å…ƒå…ˆã®å¹…差ややã¤ãã€åã‚Šã¤ãã€ä¸­é‹’やや延ã³ã‚‹ã€‚

 

å°æ¿ç›®è‚Œã‚ˆãã¤ã¿ã€ã€åœ°æ²¸ã¤ãã€åœ°æ™¯å…¥ã‚Šã€ç„¡åœ°é¢¨ãªè‚Œåˆã„を呈ã™ã€‚

 

å°äº’ã®ç›®ã‚’主調ã«å°ä¸å­é¢¨ã®åˆƒäº¤ã˜ã‚Šã€è¶³ãƒ»è‘‰å…¥ã‚Šã€åŒ‚å‹ã¡ã«å°æ²¸ã¤ãã€éƒ¨åˆ†çš„ã«è’ã‚ã®æ²¸ã¨ãªã‚Šã€ç ‚æµã—ã‹ã‹ã‚‹ã€‚

 

焼ãæ·±ãã€ç›´ã調ã«æµ…ãã®ãŸã‚Œè¾¼ã¿ã€å°ä¸¸å°–ã‚Šã”ã“ã‚ã¨ãªã‚Šã€å…ˆæŽƒãã‹ã‘る。

 

生ã¶ã€å…ˆåˆƒä¸Šã‚Šæ —å°»ã€é‘¢ç›®å¤§ç­‹é•ã„化粧ã¤ãã€ç›®é‡˜å­”一。

 

説明 ：

 

åé‘‘ã«ã€é’木五郎。清広å­ã€‚é•·é‹æ–Žç¶±ä¿Šé–€ã€‚江戸ã«ã¦ã‚‚打ã¤ã€‚弘化ã“ã‚。筑後。ã¨ã‚る。

 

作風ã¯å‚™å‰ä¼ã‚’主ã«ã—ã¦ã€åŒ‚出æ¥ã®ä¸å­ã«äº’ã®ç›®äº¤ã˜ã‚Šã®åˆƒæ–‡ã‚’焼ãã€é›ã¯å°æ¿ç›®ãŒã¤ã¾ã£ã¦ç„¡åœ°é¢¨ã¨ãªã‚‹ã€‚

 

ã“ã®åˆ€ã¯ã€å¸«ï¼šé•·é‹æ–Žç¶±ä¿Šã‚†ãšã‚Šã®å‚™å‰ä¼ã®åˆƒæ–‡ã‚’焼ã„ãŸå…¸åž‹ä½œã§ã‚る。

 

ã¾ãŸã€é™¸è»è»åˆ€æ‹µãŒé™„帯ã—ã¦ã„ã‚‹ãŒã€è»åˆ€æ‹µã«ç´ã‚られãŸåˆ€å‰£ã¯ã‚µãƒ¼ãƒ™ãƒ«ã®å®šå¯¸ã§ã‚ã‚‹2å°º1寸å‰å¾Œã«ç£¨ä¸Šã’られãŸã‚‚ã®ã‚‚多ã„ãŒã€æœ¬ä½œã¯ç”Ÿã¶èŒŽã®çŠ¶æ…‹ã§ã‚ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒå¥½ã¾ã—ã„。

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks!

 

trygve

[Nobody]

Hi,

Firstly, you should notice that only “Kiyotsuna†cannot specify the only one smith.

 

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å°æ¿ç›®è‚Œã‚ˆãã¤ã¿ã€ã€åœ°æ²¸ã¤ãã€åœ°æ™¯å…¥ã‚Šã€ç„¡åœ°é¢¨ãªè‚Œåˆã„を呈ã™ã€‚

å°äº’ã®ç›®ã‚’主調ã«å°ä¸å­é¢¨ã®åˆƒäº¤ã˜ã‚Šã€è¶³ãƒ»è‘‰å…¥ã‚Šã€åŒ‚å‹ã¡ã«å°æ²¸ã¤ãã€éƒ¨åˆ†çš„ã«è’ã‚ã®æ²¸ã¨ãªã‚Šã€ç ‚æµã—ã‹ã‹ã‚‹ã€‚

焼ãæ·±ãã€ç›´ã調ã«æµ…ãã®ãŸã‚Œè¾¼ã¿ã€å°ä¸¸å°–ã‚Šã”ã“ã‚ã¨ãªã‚Šã€å…ˆæŽƒãã‹ã‘る。

生ã¶ã€å…ˆåˆƒä¸Šã‚Šæ —å°»ã€é‘¢ç›®å¤§ç­‹é•ã„化粧ã¤ãã€ç›®é‡˜å­”一。

The above section describes shape, kitae, hamon, boshi, and nakago of the sword. Each description is hard to translate into English for me.

 

 

åé‘‘ã«ã€é’木五郎。清広å­ã€‚é•·é‹æ–Žç¶±ä¿Šé–€ã€‚江戸ã«ã¦ã‚‚打ã¤ã€‚弘化ã“ã‚。筑後。ã¨ã‚る。

作風ã¯å‚™å‰ä¼ã‚’主ã«ã—ã¦ã€åŒ‚出æ¥ã®ä¸å­ã«äº’ã®ç›®äº¤ã˜ã‚Šã®åˆƒæ–‡ã‚’焼ãã€é›ã¯å°æ¿ç›®ãŒã¤ã¾ã£ã¦ç„¡åœ°é¢¨ã¨ãªã‚‹ã€‚

ã“ã®åˆ€ã¯ã€å¸«ï¼šé•·é‹æ–Žç¶±ä¿Šã‚†ãšã‚Šã®å‚™å‰ä¼ã®åˆƒæ–‡ã‚’焼ã„ãŸå…¸åž‹ä½œã§ã‚る。

ã¾ãŸã€é™¸è»è»åˆ€æ‹µãŒé™„帯ã—ã¦ã„ã‚‹ãŒã€è»åˆ€æ‹µã«ç´ã‚られãŸåˆ€å‰£ã¯ã‚µãƒ¼ãƒ™ãƒ«ã®å®šå¯¸ã§ã‚ã‚‹2å°º1寸å‰å¾Œã«ç£¨ä¸Šã’られãŸã‚‚ã®ã‚‚多ã„ãŒã€æœ¬ä½œã¯ç”Ÿã¶èŒŽã®çŠ¶æ…‹ã§ã‚ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒå¥½ã¾ã—ã„。

Loosely as follows;

According to Meikan (= Nihonto Meikan; 日本刀銘鑑);

- name: Aoki Goro

- art name: Seikoshi (reading?)

- school: Chounsai Tsunatoshi

- location: Edo, Chikugo

- era: Koka

 

Style;

- Bizen den, nioi-deki, choji mixed with gunome, ko-itame tsumaru

 

This sword is a typical work of Bezen-den from his teacher Chounsai Tsunatoshi. Though the sword is equipped with a militaly mounting, it is not shortened and that is desirable.

[trygve]

Once again thanks for a helping hand, Nobody!!!

 

You have helped me translate part of this sword's mei before -ref.

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=854

 

The smith in question is the same Chikugo Kiyotsuna as the mei is identical with the sword on the Japanese website. This is the only rererance I have found where I can compare workmanship. The hamon looks very alike but since the photos on the Japanese website are

not very detailed, I was interested in the description on the sword and info on the smith/school.

 

Thanks to Nobody, I once again have something to work on when it comes to do research of this sword.

 

Regards

trygve

[Yoshii]

Hello,

 

Although i'm not a professional translator of Japanese, i try to translate text and put the information into little booklets of the different schools of kaji.

 

this is what I can make of it;

 

筑後久留米ä½æ¸…綱 Chikugo Kurume ju Kiyotsuna

 

嘉永四年二月日 Kaei 4th year 2nd month a day 1851

 

形状 ：sugata

 

 

 

é› ï¼škitae

 

刃文 ：hamon

 

 

 

å¸½å­ ï¼šboshi

 

茎 ：nakago

鎬造ã€åºµæ£Ÿã€èº«å¹…・é‡ã­å°‹å¸¸ã«ã—ã¦ã€å…ƒå…ˆã®å¹…差ややã¤ãã€åã‚Šã¤ãã€ä¸­é‹’やや延ã³ã‚‹ã€‚

shinogi zukuri, ihori mune, chu kissaki nobiru

å°æ¿ç›®è‚Œã‚ˆãã¤ã¿ã€ã€åœ°æ²¸ã¤ãã€åœ°æ™¯å…¥ã‚Šã€ç„¡åœ°é¢¨ãªè‚Œåˆã„を呈ã™ã€‚

ko itame hada, ji nie, chikei, muji hada style

å°äº’ã®ç›®ã‚’主調ã«å°ä¸å­é¢¨ã®åˆƒäº¤ã˜ã‚Šã€è¶³ãƒ»è‘‰å…¥ã‚Šã€åŒ‚å‹ã¡ã«å°æ²¸ã¤ãã€éƒ¨åˆ†çš„ã«è’ã‚ã®æ²¸ã¨ãªã‚Šã€ç ‚æµã—ã‹ã‹ã‚‹ã€‚

ko gunome ? ko choji, ashi . yo, nioi gachi ko nie deki, ara nie

焼ãæ·±ãã€ç›´ã調ã«æµ…ãã®ãŸã‚Œè¾¼ã¿ã€å°ä¸¸å°–ã‚Šã”ã“ã‚ã¨ãªã‚Šã€å…ˆæŽƒãã‹ã‘る。

yaki fukashi, suguha awai notare komi, ko maru togari

生ã¶ã€å…ˆåˆƒä¸Šã‚Šæ —å°»ã€é‘¢ç›®å¤§ç­‹é•ã„化粧ã¤ãã€ç›®é‡˜å­”一。

ubu, kuri jiri saki, o sujikai yasurime, 1 mekugi ana

説明 ：

 

åé‘‘ã«ã€é’木五郎。清広å­ã€‚é•·é‹æ–Žç¶±ä¿Šé–€ã€‚江戸ã«ã¦ã‚‚打ã¤ã€‚弘化ã“ã‚。筑後。ã¨ã‚る。

Aoki goro. Student of Kiyohiro. School of Chounsai Tsunatoshi, Koka periode, Chikugo kuni

作風ã¯å‚™å‰ä¼ã‚’主ã«ã—ã¦ã€åŒ‚出æ¥ã®ä¸å­ã«äº’ã®ç›®äº¤ã˜ã‚Šã®åˆƒæ–‡ã‚’焼ãã€é›ã¯å°æ¿ç›®ãŒã¤ã¾ã£ã¦ç„¡åœ°é¢¨ã¨ãªã‚‹ã€‚

 

ã“ã®åˆ€ã¯ã€å¸«ï¼šé•·é‹æ–Žç¶±ä¿Šã‚†ãšã‚Šã®å‚™å‰ä¼ã®åˆƒæ–‡ã‚’焼ã„ãŸå…¸åž‹ä½œã§ã‚る。

Chounsai Tsunatoshi’s hamon is in Bizen den style

ã¾ãŸã€é™¸è»è»åˆ€æ‹µãŒé™„帯ã—ã¦ã„ã‚‹ãŒã€è»åˆ€æ‹µã«ç´ã‚られãŸåˆ€å‰£ã¯ã‚µãƒ¼ãƒ™ãƒ«ã®å®šå¯¸ã§ã‚ã‚‹2å°º1寸å‰å¾Œã«ç£¨ä¸Šã’られãŸã‚‚ã®ã‚‚多ã„ãŒã€æœ¬ä½œã¯ç”Ÿã¶èŒŽã®çŠ¶æ…‹ã§ã‚ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒå¥½ã¾ã—ã„。

2 shaku 1 sun suriage

 

I'm sorry that i'm not capable enough to translate the complete text.

I hope this will help you a little bit.

Aoki is his familyname and goro his personal name

 

Greetings Jos

[Bugyotsuji]

Moriyama san has already done the last part for us, but:

 

ã¾ãŸã€é™¸è»è»åˆ€æ‹µãŒé™„帯ã—ã¦ã„ã‚‹ãŒã€

Also, it comes with army furnishings, but

è»åˆ€æ‹µã«ç´ã‚られãŸåˆ€å‰£ã¯ã‚µãƒ¼ãƒ™ãƒ«ã®å®šå¯¸ã§ã‚ã‚‹2å°º1寸å‰å¾Œã«ç£¨ä¸Šã’られãŸã‚‚ã®ã‚‚多ã„ãŒã€

whereas many swords in army scabbards underwent suriage to fit the standard saber measurements of 2 shaku 1 sun, or thereabouts,

本作ã¯ç”Ÿã¶èŒŽã®çŠ¶æ…‹ã§ã‚ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒå¥½ã¾ã—ã„。

this one is good because the tang is in a state of ubu nakago (untouched, as originally created)