Japanese naginata for sale

[ww2colorado]

A guy has offered me a few blades and this was in the lot. Would this be a Japanese naginata? Looks pretty old, guy said they are veteran bringbacks from a family member.

Any thoughts?

[Ganko]

It most certainly is and probably from the 1600's

[Stephen]

Yes it is. Curious to why you would post it in military swords.

[ww2colorado]

Sorry guys did not mean to post it in the military sword section. I can get measurements and stuff later wondering what a general ballpark value for something like this might be?

[vajo]

Complete with tsuba - wow!

[ww2colorado]

I will post more pictures this evening and am hoping to learn abit more on the subject of naginata

[ROKUJURO]

Chuck,

that weapon is called NAGINATA and it has an unusually short shaft as we see them on NAGAMAKI.

[ww2colorado]

Thanks for the correction lol. I did notice the short handle. Hope to update later with pictures.

Thanks, chuck

[Ed]

I suspect the pole on your naginta( ) was cut down for ease of shipping, as they can be 7-8 feet in length.  You need to remove it from the pole in order that we can see the nakago (tang).

[ww2colorado]

Heres the mei

[reeder]

Common mei, try it out. Been talking to him as well. You do know that one of his pieces is fake right?

[ww2colorado]

I have suspected something was off as seller seemed off and wouldn't get back to me .

[reeder]

Yea, took him quite some time to reply to my original message, like a month or more. It’s the sword with the handle missing the wrap that’s fake if you didn’t pick up on it.

[ww2colorado]

Reeder the same thing happened to me he didn't respond to me for about a month maybe two seems like he had me on the back burner for somebody else. Some of the swords looked kind of weird also thought I saw them for sale in different states. Didn't want to get into the katana swords yet I figured I would try to see what was up with this one first

[reeder]

Getting back to the naginata, you should give the translation a go before relying on someone here. It’s common and a well known signature. I won’t comment on whether or not it’s gimei, but he did say it was not papered.

[ww2colorado]

I am unfamiliar with the signature in question, also posted in the translation section

[Gakusee]

Start with “Hizen”

[Ed]

Very simple mei, though a high probability of gimei, very high.

[vajo]

Why is this in the sales thread? Is it for sale? 

I see no price?

[Ken-Hawaii]

Yes, if you aren't selling it, then the Mods should move this thread to Nihonto. If you are selling it, then you need to post a price, per Brian's rules.

[Jean]

Moved to Nihonto, Chuck probably means to say in the topic title that the naginata is for sale and what it is worth, to see if he buys it or not. Topic title is very misleading for the least....

[ROKUJURO]

Chuck,

there are so many fake signatures, and the few authentic ones are so expensive, that I remind you to buy the blade, not the signature! If the blade has no major faults and is nice to look at, why not keep it as a study piece? Always depending on the price-tag, of course! A GI-MEI item should have a GI-MEI price! 

[vajo]

Jean what is a gimei price? Can you say what you would pay for it?

 

I throw a price in the ring: $1850 for this piece.

 

What is the price that you get offered Chuck?

[ww2colorado]

Guys thank you for all the information, I will be holding off on this one as the seller seems pretty Shifty. I cannot get any more pictures or response out of the guy, something is off....

[ROKUJURO]

....what is a gimei price? Can you say what you would pay for it?....

Chris,

 

for me a GIMEI price reflects the facts. Seller and buyer know what they are talking about. 

 

In this case the photos do not allow for an estimation, but generally I think you are not too far, considering the whole package with a cut-off shaft.

[Peter Bleed]

From my experience, naginata with that signature are not common. This looks like a usual "duffle bag fitting" cut. I say this could be interesting.

Peter

[ww2colorado]

Guys thanks again for the response. I can take this no further as the seller is now unresponsive... I could not even get a timely response from him. Took him two months to get back to my initial email, and now the same thing.... I did tell him about the fake katana sword and his response was not too kind.... Now he will not reply. He basically wanted to know what i would pay for the swords and then when i told him about the gimei signature and bad sword he just dropped off.... Seems he may be looking for a novice collector to make the leap and buy the swords... He will probably email me in a month after some failed attempts to scam someone else... Guy seems shifty... Bad vibes...

[Stephen]

for the best Chuck

[tbonesullivan]

Definitely sounds like it was for the best. If you're gonna spend money, you want to make sure it's in the right place.

[ww2colorado]

Out of nowhere seller sent me a message asking where I lived. Then he asked if I had any guns for trade. After that he fell off the face of the Earth again. Probably looking for someone else's Goods weighing his options not sure seems weird.