MarcoUdin Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 My best guess is 'Melon'. Has a very nice border though. Quote
IJASWORDS Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Posted February 8, 2021 Thanks Marco, yes it was the ornate border that threw me. I think you found it! Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 It's within a Yuki 雪 Mon, which explains the border. 2 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 15 hours ago, Bugyotsuji said: Yuki What does that mean?What does that mean? Quote
MarcoUdin Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Bruce Pennington said: What does that mean?What does that mean? It's a religious symbol that can be added to a a crest. I didn't recognize it until Piers mentioned it. 1 1 Quote
Hshsurf Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 Trying to learn more about a sword inherited from my grandfather. It is bring back sword. Thanks Quote
MarcoUdin Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Hshsurf said: Trying to learn more about a sword inherited from my grandfather. It is bring back sword. Thanks Never seen that one, but looks like a rice plant(Ine). 2 Quote
Hshsurf Posted February 10, 2021 Report Posted February 10, 2021 I keep finding this image that has the double rice bundles but nothing with the single bundles... I'll keep looking. 1 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted February 10, 2021 Report Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Hshsurf said: double rice bundles but nothing with the single bundles I have run into that with other mon, too. I don't remember the date (it was way before WWII) they opened up mon to all families, not just Samurai. By WWII, there were many variations to all the original themes, to personalize them to each particular family. So, you may not find your exact image. 2 Quote
Hshsurf Posted February 11, 2021 Report Posted February 11, 2021 On 5/23/2020 at 1:49 AM, PNSSHOGUN said: Waiting on this one to arrive, a Mon I haven't seen on a sword before: Hey John, not sure if this helps but I came across this while researching the kamon on my shin gunto. Hatakeyama I Found it on https://www.patternz.jp/Japanese-family-crest-list-symbol/ 1 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted February 11, 2021 Report Posted February 11, 2021 That double ring Kamon is カラテイエラ 1 1 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 11, 2021 Report Posted February 11, 2021 Although David's link above shows the Hatakeyama family, most people instantly associate these 'Wa-chigai' rings with the Wakisaka. (Uwe is the expert around here.) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/脇坂氏#:~:text=脇坂氏が史上に,系譜は明確ではない。&text=家紋は輪違い、通,安明であるという。 2 1 Quote
uwe Posted February 12, 2021 Report Posted February 12, 2021 ...far from being that, Piers... I found about 11 families “registered” for this exact mon. As Piers said, mostly associated with the Wakisaka lineage (脇坂氏). Amongst the others are: “曾雌” (Soshi) ”中井” (Nakai*) “向坂” (Sakisaka) “黒川” (Kurogawa) ”中村” (Nakamura*) “小林” (Kobayashi*) “恒川” (Kakigawa*), to name a few.... Note, (*) means, several readings possible! 2 1 Quote
uwe Posted February 12, 2021 Report Posted February 12, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 5:28 PM, Hshsurf said: Trying to learn more about a sword inherited from my grandfather. It is bring back sword. Thanks Yep, it’s a rice plant “稲”. Closest I could find: ”鈴木” (Susuki) in this case. But I’m not convinced..... 2 Quote
vfc Posted February 28, 2021 Report Posted February 28, 2021 Intersecting hawk feathers in a circle. Used by Asano, Otani, Abe. Found this Tsuka for sale on the net. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 1, 2021 Report Posted March 1, 2021 Very nice, it's not very often you see Mon placed on top of the Kabutogane. Where was this for sale? Quote
menpo Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 Hi All! Thought I'd show my collection of gunto with mon. Some of them are more well known and others that I cant find anywhere to try and research them. Hope you like them as much as I do. Gethin 10 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 That is fantastic! I would love to see the rest of the sword with the Mon that has most of the gold still in it. Quote
Bryce Posted March 6, 2021 Report Posted March 6, 2021 Wow Gethin, That is a great collection! Seeing so many kabutogane side by side like that is also a great chance to notice the subtle differences in decoration between them. Cheers, Bryce 1 Quote
ribendao Posted March 15, 2021 Report Posted March 15, 2021 Anyone know what mon this is? Came on the back of a light weight gunto. I’ve tried taking a clearer picture but this is the best I have for now. Quote
SteveM Posted March 15, 2021 Report Posted March 15, 2021 Wood sorrel in circle (maru-ni-ken-katabami). You can find a few other examples in this thread. Quote
ribendao Posted March 15, 2021 Report Posted March 15, 2021 Yep that appears to be the one. Thank you very much. Quote
Kaiser21 Posted March 15, 2021 Report Posted March 15, 2021 I'm new to Japanese sword collecting so I'm not even sure if this is a Mon. This is the pommel end of a Kyu Gunto I recently acquired which had a Nihonto blade mounted in it. I'm wondering if it's a Mon or just some standard device that appeared on all swords or specific manufacturers? I've prowled through page after page of Mons examples on the net but nothing looks like this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Steve N Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted May 28, 2021 Report Posted May 28, 2021 Can anyone identify what family/clan this is from? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted May 28, 2021 Report Posted May 28, 2021 To Steve, that looks like 本 to me. As in Honda etc. Look for the square Kanji style 角本 Kaku Hon. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted May 28, 2021 Report Posted May 28, 2021 John, yours was used by many families. Check out 花菱 Hanabishi and the related 花角 Hanakaku. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted June 30, 2021 Report Posted June 30, 2021 Can't recall if this one has been identified before, 2 Quote
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