Bugyotsuji Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 The interlocking rings were used by the powerful Wakisaka family as I recall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 That was an interesting read about one of the legendary "Spears of Shizugatake", some sources also have this Mon used by the Hatakeyama, or at least a branch of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george trotter Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 I looked up Hawley's mon book p.85 and it says (as Piers said) WAKISAKA Yasuharu 1555-1626...a General. Also TATSUNO of Harima...Daimyo. Regards, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Yes, there's neat little castle in Tatsuno and the Wakisaka were located there at one time. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BE%8D%E9%87%8E%E5%9F%8E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanLM Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Any idea in this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george trotter Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just seems to be the igeta (well top) in a circle... Hawley p.79 gives about 9 examples...none with 'ichi' in the centre. You'll have to search... Sorry, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Waiting on this one to arrive, a Mon I haven't seen on a sword before: s-l1600.jpg John,Forgive my nosing into something I know almost nothing about, but a website purporting to show Samurai clan mon says this one is "Kunishi". Link: http://www.samurai-archives.com/crest3.html I don't know how much credence to put on that. I have a hanging wysteria mon, that most guys say is "Fujiwara", but this site says it is "Naito". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Gaijin Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Good afternoon Nathan, Try researching "Igeta Ni Ichi Ji". Hi John, try researching "Futatsu Tsunagi Kanawa". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 This was discussed on another thread, and remains "unknown", but it just dawned on me that it might be a mon. Any help guys? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Here's a unique one! I'm even wondering if it's not a kamon, but a unit crest or something else. It's on a police Lieutenant sword, here: http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/32587-translation-assistance-with-kyo-gunto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Bruce, check out the varieties of the Omodaka 沢瀉 Mon. e.g. 沢瀉に水 1/4 way down this page. Omodaka ni Mizu, (and water). https://kimonodo.jp/kimono/family-crest/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Bruce, check out the varieties of the Omodaka 沢瀉 Mon. e.g. 沢瀉に水 1/4 way down this page. Omodaka ni Mizu, (and water). https://kimonodo.jp/kimono/family-crest/ Thanks Piers, you nailed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Here is another family name: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 代居 よすえ Yosue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 It almost doesn't seem like a Japanese surname, how odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 A place name too. As a stand-alone word, it also has a meaning of, 'standing in for someone who came before'.代居 代わりいる https://kotobank.jp/word/%E4%BB%A3%E5%B1%85-2025539 〘自ワ上一〙 前者に代わりその地位につく。代わってその地位にいる。 ※蜻蛉（974頃）上「廿よ日のほどにかくれさせ給ひぬ。東宮、すなはちかはりゐさせ給」 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 It's on a Yasukuni-To so it must have had some significance at the time, certainly seen family names on these but I can't ever recall seeing a phrase before, very interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanB Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Bruce, I saw that kamon on a helmet in Turino, Italy, that had been given to the Duke of Savoy by the Japanese mission. It isn't listed in Iemon no Jiten by Seishi, so the family mayhave died out. Ian Bottomley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Toyotomi on a Kaigunto Don't know the significance of the 3 horizontal lines Found on fleabay by John (PNSSHOGUN) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george trotter Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 You'll have to find out what branch/family the 3 stripes on the centre leaf signifies. Have fun... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, george trotter said: Have fun. Welcome back George! Good to see you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Perhaps not specifically related, but it has always puzzled me, on a Koshirae that was purported to be a Generals there are three cuts through the leaf of the cherry blossom on the opposite side of the Kabutogane. This is something I have never seen before on another sword. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 A new one to me! Looks like a samurai helmet! And it's stamped into the kabuto gane!!! Edit: Turns out not stamped in, but recessed and soldered: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Gaijin Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hi Bruce, If you count the petals on the illustration "Toyotomi" Kamon and the ones of yours, there is a distinct difference. Spoiler "Toyotomi" Kamon is 5 7 5, yours is 3 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Grim Reaper said: Hi Bruce, If you count the petals on the illustration "Toyotomi" Kamon and the ones of yours, there is a distinct difference. Hide contents "Toyotomi" Kamon is 5 7 5, yours is 3 5 3 Good catch Malcolm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 This one is on an extremely large shingunto-mounted old blade. Found HERE It appears to be the Samurai crest of Akiyama, but isn't it upside-down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ko-mochi kikkō sankai-hishi (Three tiered diamond in double-lined tortoise shell) It is upside down. Maybe there was confusion about the koshirae. (Sword is katana, but koshirae is tachi). kamon credit: https://tenjikuroujin.sakura.ne.jp/t03castle16k3/160319/sub160319 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Here's one from BaZZa on the Kaigunto with mon thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Cannot find that one. Spatulate tridents.（？）They look somewhat like Yasu fishing spears, crossed. 簎・矠 or ヤス. Perhaps Kanji, or a Buddhist connection? Dang, I've lent out all my Kamon books, and now, just when I need them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Speaking of mons and kikusui - here's one on an old post: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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