Guest Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Good afternoon Stegel, it is called Maru Ni Watanabe Boshi The Watanabe basic form is this It is said by some to represent three rice balls on a plate, but also is sometimes referred to as a working on three stars which also may refer to the worship of the constellation of Orion (See thread on page 4). (Also Watanabe is one of the most popular family names in Japan). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 I really don't this is a mon. When you see the rest of the koshirae, it's more likely an organization emblem. But I post it here in case there are new experts that might put a name to it: http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/20100-what-mon-marking-is-this/?hl=kamon&do=findComment&comment=205874 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 丸に三つ地紙 'Maru ni mittsu jigami' is the general area, perhaps (?). Three slices of paper to be pasted onto lanterns, fans, etc. https://www.google.com/search?q=%E4%B8%B8%E3%81%AB%E4%B8%89%E3%81%A4%E5%9C%B0%E7%B4%99%E5%AE%B6%E7%B4%8B&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwignOCUjZ7nAhXFy4sBHUQ2B3wQ_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1366&bih=625 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 Yes, 3 fans, seems likely. Anyone see a crest displayed in that many places on koshirae before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 Bruce, only on the SMR Type 98s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 Piers old bean, Wagasa and its many staves comes to mind..... https://anything-from-Japan.com/nihon-ichiban/the-Japanese-authentic-umbrella-wagasa--/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeder Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Here’s another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 There was a famous battleship called 八島 https://www.google.com/search?q=Japanese+battleship+Yashima&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecRYyC3w8sc9YamMSWtOXmNM4uIKzsgvd80rySypFFLjYoOyZLh4pTj1c_UNkgxyLAw1GKS4uRBcJR0jhV2Xpp1jkxLsc2y-rfws2EGKQYmTk4GBIaH__yF7LSYOhqZ9Kw6xsXAwCjDwLGKV9kosSMxLLU5VSEosKclJLc7ILFCITARSuYkAFgdwrZQAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDt5aSp6PnAhUWUd4KHeb4DoAQ6RMwDHoECAsQBA&biw=1366&bih=625 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Hi Piers, I reckon, more likely a family name of Yashima than the battleship, as the cartouche is on a Gunto as opposed to a Kaigunto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJASWORDS Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stegel Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Good afternoon Stegel, it is called Maru Ni Watanabe Boshi The Watanabe basic form is this It is said by some to represent three rice balls on a plate, but also is sometimes referred to as a working on three stars which also may refer to the worship of the constellation of Orion (See thread on page 4). (Also Watanabe is one of the most popular family names in Japan). Thank you very much Malcom!! Very interesting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Sakura flower and leaf (or oak leaf), and 下り藤に木 Sagari Fuji ni Ki, suggesting a joining of families? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Piers, the Yamato Zakura and leaves is the standard decoration for a Gunto Kabuto - gane and does not relate to the Silver set Kamon which is an addition by the original owner. http://ohmura-study.net/905.html I get hanging Paulownia Imperialis as the main theme, Sagari Ni Fuji, but is the detail at the lower end of the central stalk a kanji character like 木 rendered in Tensho script? See Sagari Ni Fuji Gosan Kiri, with Gosan Kiri in the position of what I reckon is 木 Sort of like this only more cursive? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 https://www.google.com/search?q=%E6%9C%A8%E5%AE%B6%E7%B4%8B&oq=%E6%9C%A8%E5%AE%B6%E7%B4%8B&aqs=chrome..69i57.8111j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Bonne journee Malcolm. Sagari Fuji ni........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Cheers Piers, I'm on it now!! So, it looks like 木 , the character for Wood, rendered in Tensho script, which can be read as Ki or Moku. So, I'm going to call Sagari Fuji Ni Moku No Ji. And, knowing my fondness for all things Talismanic, Wood is the first of the five elements: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxing_(Chinese_philosophy) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 For an example of present-day usage, here is the Nishio Printing Press. On the signboard you can see the 二 of Nishio within the sagari or hanging/weeping wisteria. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Good morning Piers, That's a difficult one to call. So would that be: Sagari Fuji Ni Ni No Ji. or Sagari Fuji Ni Futatsu No Ji. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Sagari Fuji ni Ni-no-ji, I reckon! This reminds me of how Japanese students struggle in class saying Two for Tokyo, or Two to Tokyo, when they have not yet understood the schwa unstressed syllable. They say Tsuu Hoaa Tokyo, or Tsuu Tsuu Tokyo, until someone realizes what the problem is and teaches it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Cheers Piers!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_D Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 What do you know of this one? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANGBANGSAN Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 藤紋 日本の公家を代表する藤原家および全国に散らばった藤原一族末裔の家紋として広まった。公家の頂点摂関家の九條家、二條家、一條家が藤紋を掲げている。 藤原 Fujiwara Family crest What do you know of this one? IMG_2411.jpg Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_D Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Amazing thread guys and ladies , keep posting Very educative... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Hi Jason, Looks like Maru Ni Sagari Ni Fuji - Hanging Wisteria within a circle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_D Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Hi Jason, Looks like Maru Ni Sagari Ni Fuji - Hanging Wisteria within a circle. Perfect , thank you Malcolm! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Any help with this family name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Adding as a spoiler 石渡 Ishiwatari 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Thank you Steve, I managed to find a Lieutenant Colonel Heizo Ishiwatari in this essay regarding the Kwangtung army and the operational planning for action in Manchuria: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Japan/Monos/pdfs/JM-77_Preparations4Manchuria%3C1943/JM-77.htm Seems like an uncommon enough name, obviously without access to the IJA records it is extremely difficult to march records to names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Some time ago, I had to research Naval Officers aboard HIMS Katori during the early 20th Century. http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/10581-hims-katori-officer-list/ I found this site to have some extraordinary references to serving naval ranks and names. I believe it may also have similar for the Army, but I have not gone into it in depth: http://cb1100f.b10.coreserver.jp/ Turn your volume control down as music will appear from nowhere, and also do not right click. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I use the following site to get information on last names. It gives me a general idea of how common or how rare a last name may be. For instance, Ishiwatari is a name made of very common kanji, and to me it has the ring of a name that is fairly prevalent in Japan, but when I check on this site I find out that only about 621 people have this last name in Japan, and that it is found mostly in Kanagawa prefecture. Also, other possible pronunciations include Ishiwata, Ishido, Ishito, and Ishiwataru. I would have thought it to be much more common. https://myoji-yurai.net/searchResult.htm?myojiKanji=%E7%9F%B3%E6%B8%A1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Waiting on this one to arrive, a Mon I haven't seen on a sword before: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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