Need Help - Real or Fake?

[Aeljaou]

Hello there,

Just trying to see if anyone can help me verify wether this is a real or fake. I am being told this is from the late edo period (1700's nihinto katana). Any help is much appreciated.

 

[Aeljaou]

I also need some help verifying whether this WWII NCO Katana is real or fake. Once again, any help is much appreciated.

 

[paulb]

no  1 Poor Chinese fake

no.2 not sure from images but I think not original possibly Chinese copy 

[Jean]

Same as Paul:

 

1 - Chinese fake

2 - not enough picture of the blade, but the end knot of the handle is dubious. Please provide some pictures of the blade.

 

Anyway, be cautious, stay away from these « blades »

[PNSSHOGUN]

All fake, stay away.

[Ian B3HR2UH]

John is right , stay away from whoever is offering you this crap

[raaay]

 

Sorry all fakes , as already stated.

[Stephen]

Nuff said when we have that many in agreement we dont need a host of ten more "crappers" pet peeve.

[Dave R]

 I am not really going to bother commenting on the first example, it's so bad that it's not worth discussing. The second one displays two of the major "tells" for being a Chinese made fake, the Ito (wrap) and the Habaki.

 

 I suggest spending time on the internet googling pictures of real Nihonto and Gunto, and having a few (many) hours going through the posts here.

[Ken-Hawaii]

It would also help for you to buy a couple of references to study. Lots of them posted on NMB.

[Stephen]

just seen he asked elsewhere on the board and told the same. common occurrence when one thinks hes found treasures. 

[ChrisW]

The first one you can see what appears to be the grain structure of what is typically called Damascus Steel. Real Nihonto are NEVER made this way. The grain of the metal in Nihonto is far more subdued and nowhere near as course.

[Aeljaou]

Thank you all for your responses. This is much appreciated.