Bizen Osafune Tomomitsu

[James]

Hi all,

 

Can anyone help me find some information about this smith, the one who signed:

 

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Please note the Tomo kanji is å‹ not 倫

[Bugyotsuji]

Look at 9, 10, 11 under Tomomitsu in the swordsmith database, at the top right of this page.

http://www.jssus.org/nkb/

 

PS There are two Bishu, and one Bizen å‹å…‰ on p.400 of the Toko Soran.

[James]

Thanks, I've done that already and looked in both Toko Taikan and Fujishiro's but no result.

Also searched on the web but have found very little so far.

[Bugyotsuji]

Thanks, I've done that already and looked in both Toko Taikan and Fujishiro's but no result.

Also searched on the web but have found very little so far.

 

Did you see my PS above which I added later?

[James]

Toko Soran... I don't have a copy of that.

 

Could you please scan me the pages mentioned and post them here or PM them to me?

 

Thanks again

[Brian]

James,

Is yours signed Bizen or Bishu? The title says Bizen, but the kanji you posted is Bishu?

 

Brian

[James]

My apologies, it is signed "Bizen Kuni Osafune Ju Tomomitsu" - signed tachi-mei.

Please see the attachment.

[Bugyotsuji]

Don't have a scanner, so here's a photo, James

[James]

Thanks Piers, and I'll continue my search.

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

 

Piers san,

 

About the son of Kanemitsu (fourth Tomomitsu starting from the left), according Fujishiro and Nihonto Koza his name is written with the ji 倫

 

[Bugyotsuji]

Hi,

Piers san,

About the son of Kanemitsu (fourth Tomomitsu starting from the left), according Fujishiro and Nihonto Koza his name is written with the ji 倫

 

Hmmm, thanks for the update, Jacques. So, that may possibly take him out of the equation, since James specified 'not that character'. (Unless the Toko Soran is mistaken, or Tomomitsu used two different Kanji at different stages in his life.)

[Jacques]

hi,

 

Unless the Toko Soran is mistaken, or Tomomitsu used two different Kanji at different stages

 

always according the same books, in order to distinguish 倫光 from å‹å…‰, Tomomitsu was nickmaned Rintomomitsu (Rin is the chinese pronunciation for the ji 倫).

[nagamaki - Franco]

Hi all,

 

Can anyone help me find some information about this smith, the one who signed:

 

å‚™

å·ž

é•·

船

ä½

å‹

å…‰

 

Please note the Tomo kanji is å‹ not 倫

 

Hawley's lists one signing as above with å‹ , TOM 88 1345-70 with no other cross reference. Nihonto Koza lists the first Tomomitsu as signing with 倫 , then mentions there were 2 others signing with å‹ , one working in Enbun, one working in Oei.

[Grey Doffin]

Nihonto Zuikan, page 683 is the only hit for Tomomitsu with that Kanji for Tomo in my index.

Grey

[James]

From the hamon on the sword, I believe it could be by the Tomomitsu from Kokoku c.1340

The JSS Knowledge Base says this Tomomitsu crafted swords with large notare and choji-midare hamons, and the sword in question has the former.

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

From the hamon on the sword, I believe it could be by the Tomomitsu from Kokoku c.1340

 

I don't think, the mannerism (way of engraving) does not close with this era; seems too large, too deep and looks too new.

[James]

You're probably right Jacques. Too bad we can't find any oshigatas or photos to help us with this.

[Jean]

Too bad we can't find any oshigatas or photos to help us with this.

 

You can James, here it is. Sorry it is a bit fuzzy but this book weights one hundred tons and I had to hold it to prevent damaging it

[Jean]

3 other ones with my camera