Kanayama Tsuba?

[Kurikata]

Hi,

 

I purchased this tsuba recently which is similar in design (Tsurigane - 釣り鐘) with one in Sasano's "early Japanese sword guards - page 116". Would you consider mine a Kanatyama school too ?

 

Thank you for your views.

[ROKUJURO]

Bruno,

on a KANAYAMA TSUBA I would expect some pronounced TEKKOTSU. In case you dont't find them on your TSUBA, it might just be a later one with a similar design.

[TETSUGENDO]

Minus the tekkotsu your generally left with Owari or something else, perhaps a later Shoami work?

 

-S-

[Curran]

If from Yahoo Japan, I beleive I was one of the underbidders on this one.

 

Yahoo! Japan has gotten a bit overly crowded with bidders for limited offerings.

Still, I thought this one worth a try.

[Kurikata]

Curran,

it has not been purchased at Yahoo Japan, but at a french auction House (picture of the Tsuba on their site is attached) . 

 

Steven,

I do not see pronounced tekkotsu even if the iron on the mimi somewhere shows some "granularities"

[TETSUGENDO]

Bruno,

 

The auction house photo shows a lot more texture, it a stronger presentation.  Whatever, it's a very handsome piece with a lot of presence, you usually make good aesthetic choices.

 

-S-

[Curran]

Any of you have the Owari Blue Book?  (Owari Tosando no Tsubako, I think).

If so, Bruno probably would appreciate a scan in of that page.

 

Generally they are thought of as Kanayama, though sometimes getting an Ono or Owari call.

These days the NBTHK seems a bit less consistent to me, so I cannot venture what they would say. Let us hope you don't get a Shoami call.

I've seen a tsuba generally regarded as a Kanayama that got a 'Shoami' call its first time through Hozon shinsa. Tough luck.

The next time -->  Hozon to Kanayama.

[Pete Klein]

尾張と三河の鐔工 --  Owari to Mikawa no Tanko

[Marius]

Hmm... This happens very often, unfortunately. People see an iconic motif and make an attribution based solely on that motif. 

[Kurikata]

Marius,

This post was a little bit provocative as asking the question implied my serious doubts. Coming to Owari is probably what could happen at best to me.

[Marius]

It is good to talk Owari is quite a broad appellation, so it might be OK 

[rkg]

A lot of the owari "bins" have always seemed to me to be somewhat arbitrary, but maybe Ono would be what I would bin it as (or edo owari maybe).

Best,

rkg

(Richard George)

[Soshin]

The rim doesn't look right for Kanayama in terms of the lack of iron bones (tekkotsu) and the round overall shape of the rim. It might be Ono but I have a Ono tsuba with very strong iron bones like a Kanayama tsuba.  I am thinking Shoami or possible a late Owari-Sukashi work circa the middle Edo Period.  I like the bell openwork design I think it references a No theater play.      

[christianmalterre]

where is the "spitting" smily Brian ?

 

Kanayama   of course! what else!

 

( jbw- how many times? i do already repeat me ???? )

 

Mr. Grey Doffin ( bookseller, collector himself, member here, known....) does offer a very minutiously and well choosen "bunch" of reference-( sorry for this word)- of literature!

 

why not heading?

 

Christian

[Pete Klein]

As the late Anthony Bourdain's once Provençal in-law Anne Degan (sp) offered in reference to his attempted melange, "Tony - it is very pretty -- but it is not Ratatouille"!