FletchSan Posted February 25, 2019 Report Posted February 25, 2019 Hi All, I picked up this tsuba papered as Goto Seijo and would like to find out more about the Seijo school / generations. I've found very little online about Seijo so please point me to any references or good books that may cover the waki goto schools in some detail. I'd also like to translate the NTHK paper which I believe is an older paper from Showa 53 though havent had much luck yet. The online resources which label the columns that I have seen are for NTHK swords not koshirae, so any pointers here would also be appreciated. I did discover another thread from 2017 after I purchased the tsuba where the previous owner had concerns about the finish which seems to be a coating of wax or oil though it looks much better in hand and doesn't concern me too much. cheers, Ben Quote
Brian Posted February 25, 2019 Report Posted February 25, 2019 Ben, hope I'm wrong, but I have serious doubts about whether this would paper again to Goto if resubmitted.I just don't see the fine details. Quote
FletchSan Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Posted February 25, 2019 Perhaps my photos - here's one with the flash, though it makes it look overly glossy. It does show the details a little better. It's also an iron tsuba which I assume wont have the fine details of a soft metal tsuba. I don't have too much to compare it with, so if anyone has examples of iron Goto Seijo they could share that would be great ! cheers, Ben 1 Quote
FletchSan Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Posted February 25, 2019 Not too many examples online - though this one has some similarities published in this exhibition catalogue "THE Japanese SWORD AND ITS FITTINGS From the collections of the members of the Japanese SWORD SOCIETY OF NEW YORK and The Cooper Union Museum The Cooper Union Museum, New York March 26 through May 28, 1966". Quote
vajo Posted February 25, 2019 Report Posted February 25, 2019 I got this tsuba for free because it has lost all his patination. I thought it is a hard treated bushu tsuba, but i think maybe it is a goto seijo. It stands in my book rack, hoping the patina comes back. A very fine made tsuba with lovely carvings, but naked.. Quote
TETSUGENDO Posted February 25, 2019 Report Posted February 25, 2019 Ben, Detail of Seijo's work is much more precise and detailed, this is a decent 'school' piece in less than great condition. It's a nice attractive collectable tsuba, just not the finest example. Cheers, -S- p.s.-Chris, your tsuba is Bushu. 3 Quote
vajo Posted February 25, 2019 Report Posted February 25, 2019 Thanks Steven, so my feeling was right. 2 Quote
Curran Posted February 26, 2019 Report Posted February 26, 2019 Ben, Other than the Waki Goto book, I don't know how much information you will find on the Seijo line. To get more meat out of the text, you need be either capable reading the Japanese or willing to pay someone like Markus to do the translating. As far as I know, there isn't anything major translated into English. Then again, things are privately done all the time. I have more than a few independent translations of various texts or small schools on my shelf- but nothing on the Seijo line. Quote
FletchSan Posted February 26, 2019 Author Report Posted February 26, 2019 Thanks Curran - I don’t actually have a copy of the waki goto book so will look into that as a starting point. Are there any further details on the nthk paper? I haven’t had it translated yet. Cheers, Ben Quote
Vermithrax16 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Posted February 26, 2019 Markus is the way to go. Fast and well priced. I get anything I am buying translated BEFORE I make the purchase. 1 Quote
Hoshi Posted February 26, 2019 Report Posted February 26, 2019 There is very little on Goto Seijo to be found outside Japanese reference work. Completely and utterly eclipsed by the grandiose heights of Goto Ichijo. Quote
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